got a deck job coming up in an area I have not worked before. Codes for this area say no attachment of ledger to brick vaneer. I couldn't find anything that said I can't attach the ledger if I bolt into the rim joist and not the brick and not one diagram showed this method. yet it's how 99% are done in this area. I couldn't understand not allowing brick fixings only but going through to the rim joist they really think that it's not good enough fixing?
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couldnt do that around here even if we wanted to. 90% of the homes here have walkout basements and having posts set on 6ft centers everywhere sure would play havoc with the walkout area.
I would lose projects left and right if I told people that there would be posts every 6'...
We consider ourselves custom builders, in other words whatever the client wants we can achieve... (if the money is there) quite often minimizing posts is critical to my customers, they don't want it looking like a forest under their deck.
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Got one customer right this second with the exact issue. He don't want post covering door ways and windows. I wouldnt either to be honest. It's just fun trying to calculate joist spans/joist overhangs/beam spans/beam overhangs to get posts where he wants them with out breaking the codes.
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Two Words:
Engineered Beams
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Engineered Beams
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That's was an option I gave him if spans didn't work out correctly. I have never used them but I'm sure I should be able to get them local.
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If you don't me me asking how do you flash the ledger with stucco?
According to DCA6-09, no attachment to or through brick veneer is allowed. The deck must be free-standing. If your AHJ has adopted DCA6-09, then that is what you are up against. There are two separate issues here:
1, attaching to brick veneer is not allowed because brick veneer is an exterior finish system, not a structural component. it lack the pull-out and sheer strength required for a ledger board attachment.
2, bolting through the brick into the rim board is not allowed because the bolt would be too long going through the brick plus the air space, then into the rim board. It would bend under load, damaging the brick veneer, and ultimately failing in bending.
Keep in mind that I've never actually built anything, including decks, I faked my way to a General Contractors License, all my knowledge is book learning, I not actually a plumber, and I'm from California.
1, attaching to brick veneer is not allowed because brick veneer is an exterior finish system, not a structural component. it lack the pull-out and sheer strength required for a ledger board attachment.
2, bolting through the brick into the rim board is not allowed because the bolt would be too long going through the brick plus the air space, then into the rim board. It would bend under load, damaging the brick veneer, and ultimately failing in bending.
Keep in mind that I've never actually built anything, including decks, I faked my way to a General Contractors License, all my knowledge is book learning, I not actually a plumber, and I'm from California.
If you end up having to build a free-standing deck, helical piles can be a life-saver. You need to go down to undisturbed soil, no matter how far from the foundation your posts are. Obviously, right next to the foundation, you'll be going down usually 9 feet or more, hence the advantage of helical piles.
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Screw thru stucco?
Attach to brick facade?
Excuse me for a moment, I believe there's a wall somewhere I need to beat my head against!
-Matt
Attach to brick facade?
Excuse me for a moment, I believe there's a wall somewhere I need to beat my head against!
-Matt
Bingo!
It seems that some people don't realize that house foundations get back filled and it's not undisturbed soil you're dealing with...
True, but in 10 years of rain and freeze/thaw cycles the ground is mostly settled. Around here it's typical for the foundation to be stuccoed and usually 3-5 years later the dirt has settled down 3-4" it all depends on how much water it gets exposed to. Water makes a great compactor, be sure of proper drainage if you choose to soak a yard (it'd be no fun to flood the basement)DecksEtc said:Bingo!
It seems that some people don't realize that house foundations get back filled and it's not undisturbed soil you're dealing with...
Is the ledger going on the inside or the ouside? Does it bear on permafrost? :laughing:
:laughing::laughing:You are just plain f
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