[demoo guy]

Hello guys, I've been searching for an answer about where and how to disposal lead contaminated waste. I' am certified, but I the instructor wasn't really helpful with how to disposal the waste.

As a demolition sub, do i have to have a closed bed truck?
where and which type of landfill do i take it too?
what type of receipt do i need to provide the contractor?

by the way, this is a commercial 6th stories demo. everything is being gutted inside.

please give me some advise as i would highly appreciate it.

thanks

 

[m1911]

http://www2.epa.gov/lead/renovation-repair-and-painting-program

 

[jaydee]

My quick response

sealed garbage bags
or
sheet plastic rolled into itself.

or
large items, path to dumpster protected from chips falling onto
unprotected surfaces.

dumpster lined to contain chips.

that's how I would handle a large rrp demo.

 

[CarpenterSFO]

If you google "epa rrp landfill" you'll find a number of useful items, some from the EPA.

 

[demoo guy]

My quick response

sealed garbage bags
or
sheet plastic rolled into itself.

or
large items, path to dumpster protected from chips falling onto
unprotected surfaces.

dumpster lined to contain chips.

that's how I would handle a large rrp demo.

Sealed garbage bag of plaster

if i were to remove the studs, i would have to plastic roll them too?

Also, any info on the receipt i would have to provide?

thanks again

 

[m1911]

Sealed garbage bag of plaster

if i were to remove the studs, i would have to plastic roll them too?

Also, any info on the receipt i would have to provide?

thanks again

were you sleeping in class? :laughing:

 

[jaydee]

the point of RRP is to stop possible lead dust from being released into the work area (home)

if you have a protected path to a lined dumpster you can carry
the items without being wrapped.

The trash bags should be used for small stuff and the cleanup
residue from sweeping.Vacuum after sweeping.

if your taking stuff to the dumpster and chips are falling on unprotected
areas, then thats a violation.

wrapping things like a burriteo protects the chips from falling onto
unprotected areas.

a plastic lined dumpster will protect the jobsite from spilled
dust and paint chips or anything that is contaminated.
Cover the top of the load before it is taken away and your covered.
Once the haul truck loads it , It's on them where it goes.

we plastic off alot around here. Some people think it's a pain and stay away from that type of work. I myself don't really care. We plastic off to protect peoples homes anyway. Now with the RRP rules we can get paid a little more for it, Because they are aware of the reasons why we have to do it.

SORRY FOR THE NOVEL

 

[hiteams]

RRP doesn't apply to commercial.

 

[jaydee]

commercial property, residential apartments or condos ?

 

[m1911]

the point of RRP is to stop possible lead dust from being released into the work area (home)

if you have a protected path to a lined dumpster you can carry
the items without being wrapped.

The trash bags should be used for small stuff and the cleanup
residue from sweeping.Vacuum after sweeping.

if your taking stuff to the dumpster and chips are falling on unprotected
areas, then thats a violation.

wrapping things like a burriteo protects the chips from falling onto
unprotected areas.

a plastic lined dumpster will protect the jobsite from spilled
dust and paint chips or anything that is contaminated.
Cover the top of the load before it is taken away and your covered.
Once the haul truck loads it , It's on them where it goes.

we plastic off alot around here. Some people think it's a pain and stay away from that type of work. I myself don't really care. We plastic off to protect peoples homes anyway. Now with the RRP rules we can get paid a little more for it, Because they are aware of the reasons why we have to do it.

SORRY FOR THE NOVEL

I'm one of the ones that turns down work on pre '78 homes. No matter how well you document things and take photo's, I think it's a liability that can come back to bite you in the asss later. Everyone is looking to point fingers now days and pass on the blame. Who needs that added stress?

 

[demoo guy]

It's a commercial property

 

[JackP23]

I'm one of the ones that turns down work on pre '78 homes. No matter how well you document things and take photo's, I think it's a liability that can come back to bite you in the asss later. Everyone is looking to point fingers now days and pass on the blame. Who needs that added stress?

My thoughts exactly. My position on this may change if things slow down but for now, all thing being equal, I choice to do the work that I won't expose me to being fined by the Gov. or sued by the HO.

I wonder what would happen of we all collectively took this approach. :whistling:whistling:whistling

___________
Mike

 

[jaydee]

Send the work my way.

I'll take the extra RRP markup & profit.

 

[JackP23]

Send the work my way.

I'll take the extra RRP markup & profit.

How much do you charge for having them sign a pamphlet and wipe with a swifter?



__________
Mike

 

[jaydee]

Theres a lot more to it than that.

admin fee = 5 hrs x labor rate

booklets & forms = $25 set

onsite safety signage = 1-2 hrs day

interior barriers = 2-3 hund

exterior = 1500 hun

 

[pdmig]

It is my understanding that the law is to protect children from lead. If there are no children there or visiting for much time then the protective measures do not apply. Kids are all around but not everywhere. It seems that everyone treats every pre 78 project like it is lead city.

I took the training and avoid the work. I have not done a RRP job yet.

 

[jaydee]

I don't assume that a child will never touch my work.

my interpretation is to limit the amount of dust and/or chip flying around.
it's not lead abatement, it lead protection.

the wood may have lead, if it stays and not replaced. homeowner is aware and it's on them.

That's why we do a DUST check when completed.
We are just stopping the dust and chips from staying onsite
We use barriers and plastic to limit the spread of the dust and to make the clean up
easier, being a smaller area,,

 

[TNTRenovate]

It is my understanding that the law is to protect children from lead. If there are no children there or visiting for much time then the protective measures do not apply. Kids are all around but not everywhere. It seems that everyone treats every pre 78 project like it is lead city.

I took the training and avoid the work. I have not done a RRP job yet.

It's to protect any inhabitants. The law states that you have to treat any home pre 78 like it is less city.

I will work in pre 78 homes, but only after my abatement company comes in and tests and if needed abates the hazards. We test for lead and asbestos depending in the material and project.

 

[JackP23]

Theres a lot more to it than that.

admin fee = 5 hrs x labor rate

booklets & forms = $25 set

onsite safety signage = 1-2 hrs day

interior barriers = 2-3 hund

exterior = 1500 hun

I'm not questioning your wanting to do EPA jobs.......but again all things being equal......two similar jobs in front of you....wouldn't you choose the none lead job. That's a lot of liability for a few hundred bucks.

Just wondering

___________
Mike

 

[jaydee]

sure non lead for limited liability, sure.

but , we use plastic a lot anyway, helps with clean up.

My point was " that guys don't HAVE to shy away from the work.
it's not bad if your educated in it.