Zinsser makes a lot of different primers. Which one am I voting for?

Anyways, all of Zinsser's products are better than Kilz, so I voted.

 

Zinsser makes a lot of different primers.

Over a dozen that I can think of

 

Kilz is getting Killed in this poll. 11-0 when I voted.

 

Kilz makes a half dozen products that I know of
They all suck except for Original Kilz

 

And I'd pick BIN over that any day.

 

Yea definatly zinsser. Ive always used either coverstain or 123. Has anyone ever used fastprime or fastprime 2. If so, what the heck is the differance. And besides extremly bad stains or fire damage, what is the advantage of BIN.

 

Gives you one hell of a buzz if your locked in a 6x9 bathroom with it. It's why I bought the new respirator.

 

Yeah, like Ken says, it smells real good.

 

:lol: @ Kilz....:thumbdown

 

Kilz covers anything! Zinsser is watery!

Naw just joking I always pick Zinsser cause it sticks to almost everything without sanding (silicone, and grease is the only thing I can think of that it doesn't stick to.)

But the only thing I would like to see is for Zinsser 1-2-3 to be more of a high hiding primer.

 

ok, someone voted kilz--who is the mysterious one? :batman:

C'mon with a 26-1 vote....you just have to let us know :surrender:

 

ok, someone voted kilz--who is the mysterious one? :batman:

C'mon with a 26-1 vote....you just have to let us know :surrender:

Usually, the one who first asks "Who farted?", is the one who did it.... so Paintguy... did you do it? :laughing:

 

I'm wondering if the paint co's. are tracking this site. Maybe they were the sole vote.:laughing:

 

I feel bad for Kilz at this point, I mean.. we all still say "just kilz it" still... heh

 

If your scraping off peeling paint on plaster walls, Zinsser's pigmented shellac [which around here we call bulls-eye] is used to seal off the patch area before patching, many times will blister after the patch is applied. That's why I would use Kilz or another oil based sealer, over a shellac based sealer. Shellac just won't hold out the moisture...

 

yeah, so I usually use BIN when needed. I was in SW yesterday and they gave me a gallon of SW shellac to try---on the house. You think they want me to switch over? :whistling

 

Zinn's the ####!! I like the oil and sometimes use the waterbased. Kilz is too smelly for interiors and isn't supposed to be used on exteriors as it's too brittle.

I made the mistake of letting a contractor talk me into using Kilz II on some interior door repaints. What a mistake, the stuff scratched off with the slightest abrasion.

 

Kilz2
When your painting project absolutely, positively, must fail

 

Argh! One of my customers bought the "Gold" version of that crap to use as a primer for an extreme yellow made by Behr. The primer was tinted but still didn't cover the old blue paint. We used two coats of it but the effect was negligible.

Topcoated three times with Behr and the room was still below standard. I initially told the customers to get SW or BM primer and paint for the room but they didn't listen. As much as I hated doing it, I told them I was done with the room unless they wanted to pay. They were previous customers that always haggled me when I cited extra work, but this time I stuck to my guns and told them they had to start respecting my advice, and time or find someone else. I actually lost money on that job (pre-school) because of bad information from them (ie. I had to sample old paint cans to find the right orange, or green) and they made me do the runs to the store- something that we agreed that they would do.

Oh, the point is Kilz Latex stinks. I don't understand why Behr doesn't have a deep-tint, ultra base, primer to go with their product. If you get stuck with a Home Depot paint guy having to make you the right tinted primer for an insane Red or Yellow, your up the creek.

 

Lobster

If you get stuck with a Home Depot paint guy having to make you the right tinted primer for an insane Red or Yellow, your up the creek.

I feel privileged to know more than a HD paint guy--but then again, they work like robots, doing the same humdrum every second and have no clue about actually painting and what is best...I haven't had 1 customer all year who made? me use Behr paint, mainly because I pick the paint and they fill out the checks. Period.

Being a professional painter and using Behr paint is like going to Mcdonalds to eat lobster-- a desirable product at a convenient place, but it would taste like complete crap I'm sure

Get that same lobster at a seafood restaurant and bingo...it's good, a bit more pricey, but the quality is top notch

 

Behr Paint
"When your painting project absolutely, positively, must have 5 top coats and still look like crap"

 

Shoulda done it...

200 dollar paint job -
500 man hours -
Being able to get yet another gallon from the corner store... priceless. :w00t:

 

Z 4 me cuz I need the job 2 b hassle free

 

I want to say zinser because eveyrone else is. But the truth is, I would "grab" original kilz off the shelf. I'm used to the smell and the buzz. I think zinser is "stronger" and I try to keep in mind the fumes in a residential situation, how it effects the animals, furnace etc.

I'm sure there is a difference, but in my mind, not enough to argue about.

I think zinser is a product that leaves a nice "finish" to sand or paint, but I don't care. I like a thin coat. I think it costs more, doesn't make much difference in the top coat, and I can do the work. Don't need the primer to do any more than cover up what I'm priming. I'll do the rest, thank you.

It's like a drywall patch. One where you can still see the hole. You touch it but don't believe your own hands, it can't be filled. But if you just paint it, it comes out smooth. you can't believe your own eyes sometimes if you're a painter.

 

Without question, Zinsser is a superior product.

 

For water stains?

 

Zinnser Coverstain is a better product - but that's because it also doubles up as an exterior spot primer. Kilz original is strictly interior enamel undercoater territory - for the price I use it all the time!

-plainpainter

 

zinsser all the way, especially the b-i-n!!! kilz is just a popular name for primer BUT it sucks!!!

 

Well i guess i stand alone

I will be the one and only i guess. i vote for the original kilz oil, been using it for years and i love it as much as i can love any oil based primer.
So let the bashing begin. LOL

 

Funny, I normally use BIN in the spray can, but today ran out. I went to the shop for the apartment complex where I was working, thinking to save a trip to the paint store, and searched for some BIN. Well, they had a can of Kilz spray so I grabbed it and used it on some black marker graffiti that some youhoo put on his bedroom wall. I think that it covered better than the BIN that I had previously been using. Seemed to me that there was more pigment in the can. I voted KILZ.

 

I love Zinnser.. however I DO use Kilz at times, like spray priming the hinges on bifolds before I spray them.... metal stuff.