I was for three yrs, my membership expires on the 22nd of this month. I did the same as you: got a free code book.
I didn't see any additional benefit for me.
I didn't see any additional benefit for me.
International Code Council
Anyone here a member of the ICC? I am looking at becomeing a member just to save some $ on the 2015 codes. Not sure what other benifit it would be.
From my perspective they are discounting the codes for members and allowing in anyone who pays for the aplication. Looks like a membership drive to claim how "STRONG" they are.
From my perspective they are discounting the codes for members and allowing in anyone who pays for the aplication. Looks like a membership drive to claim how "STRONG" they are.
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I am buying a couple sets of code books for the local govt office. Selling to them at price listed on the net plus some shipping. becomeing a member gives me enough discount to pay for the membership and make $100 or so. Bonus is I get a free code book AND it never hurts to do the govt guys a favor.
I may be crazy, but I think once you register your business or get your license, the necessay code books should be given to you.
I fully agree in the sense that any regulation any citizen is required to abide by obviously needs to be accessible to him so he knows what's legal. Problem is, codes are made up by private (for profit, whether they admit it or not) organizations and then enforced by the government. Gray area.I may be crazy, but I think once you register your business or get your license, the necessay code books should be given to you.
It does cost money to produce those books.
They support their operations by selling the books. There have been lots of issues when cities and other entities have published themmon their website.
The code books should be looked at as tools to do your job. Your hair stylest is not given a siscors when they get their buticians license, they buy it as you should buy a code book.
The code books should be looked at as tools to do your job. Your hair stylest is not given a siscors when they get their buticians license, they buy it as you should buy a code book.
Your attempt at an anology is ridiculous.They support their operations by selling the books. There have been lots of issues when cities and other entities have published themmon their website.
The code books should be looked at as tools to do your job. Your hair stylest is not given a siscors when they get their buticians license, they buy it as you should buy a code book.
I don't have a hair stylist.
Code books are not to be looked at as tools, because they're not. Even by basic definition, they're not. The code book(s) are just that, books that contain the necessary building codes that one must adhere to when building, designing, or otherwise changing/altering a structure or supporting utility. As a contractor I must abide by these codes. As such they should be given to me by the governing authority. They could buy the books and put the cost into my license fee, I don't care. But I should be given the books with my license.
And back to your anology, i'm not looking for a drill or a saw, which would be a tool. I'm looking for the books which list the codes that I must adhere to.
Of all the analogies that come to mind to get your point across, you pick hair stylist and buticians?????? WTF lol
I finally bought my Ontario Building Code books last year to get my Tarion builders license. Haven't opened them since I bought them.jb4211 said:I may be crazy, but I think once you register your business or get your license, the necessay code books should be given to you.
I build as per stamped plans, not my job to argue with the guys who draw plans.
That's a little preposterous. Tax dollars fund the development of codes and selling the books is one way to weight the cost burden toward those who are actually using code books. Personally I think if a governing body wants to enforce necessary standards and practices they should provide the requirements free of charge. If code books were merely recommended practices then they should absolutely be sold.They support their operations by selling the books. There have been lots of issues when cities and other entities have published themmon their website.
The code books should be looked at as tools to do your job. Your hair stylest is not given a siscors when they get their buticians license, they buy it as you should buy a code book.
In a way I look at codes like laws, if you want people to follow them they have to be accessible.
Ever ask your city for a copy of their by-laws? They cannot/will not give them to you, until you violate one, then they have no problem citing you for itIn a way I look at codes like laws, if you want people to follow them they have to be accessible.
They are available online free without restricted access.Ever ask your city for a copy of their by-laws? They cannot/will not give them to you, until you violate one, then they have no problem citing you for it
Now try getting a copy of the bulilding code without prying open your wallet to the tune of $250...oh and don't forget to pay for the additional amendments and updates.Rules changed? Oh ya...freedom of information act!!!
Find it!No updates are free...til the new code book comes out.
I was surfing one night and found the entire OBC online PDF format and it was free, I was telling Brutus about it, then I couldn't find it again...maybe if I get bored I can look again
The updates are only free if you buy the version that includes updates, which IIRC is around $300. For those cheap pricks out there you can buy the book without amendments or updates.
Cheque is in the mail. :whistlingThat's 2 beers you owe me now
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