That tells me he didn't hear what he wanted to hear and is avoiding you. IF that is the case then WILL he be honest about it. Most mediation usually involves all parties. That way all know up front what is expected out of each party when it is over.

Is there a type of formal mediation process for builders in OK? We used to have one here in Texas

 

I don't know if we have that or not. Maybe Okiecontractor would know. I'll have to message him. I was thinking the same as you cuz it would seem if he had agreement on his side he would be anxious to let me know. Everyone likes to be right. Right? But I have no idea with these people.

 

I would also like to add that it was kind of a joke but we did have one.

 

Maybe try to contact the remodeling company and see if they will talk to you

 

How about calling the "A" team and asking what they found?

I am wildly curious to see how this shakes out.

 

My curiosity is killing me too! I am not a timid person by any means but that intimidates me a bit.

 

My curiosity is killing me too! I am not a timid person by any means but that intimidates me a bit.

Come on T-Girl we want to know. Get us some info!

 

He just called me! On the phone w him now!

 

Be proactive on your side and show he did not follow-up.

"Mr. Goofball, since we haven't heard from you, I was following up to find out the results of your meeting with XYZ Company regarding your perceived issues with the paint.

As you'll recall, during our last conversation, you had requested to have XYZ Company come in for their perspective on the work done, and we agreed in our willingness to make you happy. From that conversation, it was our understanding that the meeting was held on Wednesday afternoon, December 11, 2013 at 1:30pm and that you would give us a follow-up call with the results of the meeting so we can move forward.

Please call us at 333-333-3333 so we can discuss the next step. We look forward to hearing from you."

Sincerely,

T-towngirl


Document everything... Check your cities lien laws regarding time limits... you don't want them running out the clock on you...

Best of luck... 8^)

 

Be proactive on your side and show he did not follow-up. "Mr. Goofball, since we haven't heard from you, I was following up to find out the results of your meeting with XYZ Company regarding your perceived issues with the paint. As you'll recall, during our last conversation, you had requested to have XYZ Company come in for their perspective on the work done, and we agreed in our willingness to make you happy. From that conversation, it was our understanding that the meeting was held on Wednesday afternoon, December 11, 2013 at 1:30pm and that you would give us a follow-up call with the results of the meeting so we can move forward. Please call us at 333-333-3333 so we can discuss the next step. We look forward to hearing from you." Sincerely, T-towngirl Document everything... Check your cities lien laws regarding time limits... you don't want them running out the clock on you... Best of luck... 8^)

This is a good letter to use almost word for word.

 

I had a conversation discussing every concern. I was on the phone w him for 45 min. I told him I needed the 50% draw before I could proceed. I also reiterated that this was my position all along. ( If you will notice i am finished except for these "concerns") He was refusing to pay and kept telling me why. Rather than tell him to kiss my $&@, I asked him to make a list and email it to me. How is this a mixed message. I do not WANT to work for them anymore but if he pays me I will do my best to address these concerns. How is this a mixed message to him?

If you won't finish the work because he hasn't paid then why are you asking him to send you a list? You won't do the list anyway if he's not paying you. When you say you won't do the work because you haven't received your 50% draw yet, that's not making a lot of sense either. If you had progress payments scheduled in your contract, the correct way to do it is schedule a walk through with the homeowner when you've reached that phase, if they are happy with the work up to that point then you collect the payment and continue the rest of the job. If there's something wrong then you fix it, and then collect the payment. If there's a draw you haven't received then why are you finished with the job? Why didn't you wait for your draw before you continued work?

It sounds like it would be hard to work this out over the forums. Why don't you show your contract to your attorney and figure out your options?

 

If you go back and read, she has been more than willing to fix whatever it is they are not happy with... the clog is on the customer side... she is on very good ground IMHO...

 

If you go back and read, she has been more than willing to fix whatever it is they are not happy with... the clog is on the customer side... she is on very good ground IMHO...

umm ok but she just said she won't proceed until she gets her 50% draw.

 

$@&@$& $&@&/$!!!!!!! Whew!!! My husband and son were getting so mad I thought they were going to grab the phone, jump thru it and kick his.... Anyway, he offered me $500.00 to go away so he could have the other contractor fix his issues. The "A" team contractor said that he would have taken all drawers and doors to a paint shop and hand painted the faces. I explained that I did not bid that, they did not ask for that, and that I offered to take doors in question off-site and work on them. He's all excited that the elite is willing to do this. I told him I was not willing to except $500.00. I need a breath and a beer.

 

SOP for a job gone south.

All of a sudden everybody & his brother could have done it better, faster & cheaper.

Is the amount in small claims limits where you live?

 

Heres the deal they were happy until I asked for second draw. It was my bad to wait til we were almost done, I was too trusting. They were acting so nice, I didn't worry about it. Plus we did this in a week, it went fast. I will no better next time but I don't get why I would go in the hole even more than I am when there is a risk they won't ever be satisfied.

 

So they never intended to pay for the job?

 

Wonder if they have got a price from them to take the doors off site..... if they haven't they may rethink their plan of they come in several thousands higher. Besides if they owe you for the material then they do. Regardless if they work is unsatisfactory to them or not.

 

Burn his house to the ground...That's how it's done in Ottawa.

 

no beer in the fridge...

 

Whisky is the new beer.

 

You let him know this was unsatisfactory, right?...

 

Yes I said I was proposing the same thing but he said he didn't believe I could do it " up to level". It's rare there is a job where after all plastic, tape is pulled you don't have any Touchup. That was the stage I was at. We cleaned, pulled plastic etc and I told her after thanksgiving we would come back and fix any issues. I asked for draw and reimbursement. She said no and then fired me Friday after thanksgiving.

 

He was pointing out things like a little line of paint on the glass where tape was pulled. It takes two seconds w a razor to fix! Unbelievable!!!

 

When the intent is to nit pick to death all manner of little insignificant details can be found.

These folks are pros.

 

What are the 6 p's? I think I need to know this

 

My husband had beer in his mini fridge. :clap:

 

I'd take him to court with the pics just to embarrass him in front of the judge.... but I'm feeling a little randy tonight...

DO NOT accept that $500...

 

I think it's the seven P's Griz is so old there were probably only six when he was a young carpenter. They are "prior proper planing prevent piss poor procedures"

 

When the intent is to nit pick to death all manner of little insignificant details can be found. These folks are pros.

It all makes since especially when you say how nice they were and gave you a sense of comfort, definitely pros they've done this before.

 

I'd take the 500 then go after the rest...because you may never see any of it.

 

My lawyer told me to not take partial payments on stuff like that. It can be taken as you are accepting a payment plan. I'd say full payment or let the court decide.

 

I'd take the 500 then go after the rest...because you may never see any of it.

But that would be accepting something other then their agreement, could turn it all upside down

 

It comes down to hard numbers...What is the specific balance?

 

I am definitely taking him to court. And thanks to God I have plenty of work right now and thru Christmas. Last year I had none in Dec. which is ok when you haven't just taken an out of pocket loss. I'm small and I like it that way. But it makes it hard to afford handing over money to virtual strangers so they can have $20 per sf tile. I am going to present my case and hope for the best. If I lose the money, I will be fine and like all you guys have said, it was a great education for me. Thanks to all of you who have contributed to this thread and offered great advice and support. This forum has kept me sane thru all this. And this beer is making things much better too.

 

As long as you documented it all, including email and texts, IMHO you are on solid ground...

Best of luck... 8^)