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Illegal immigrant entitled to workers' comp

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#1 ·
Not sure how I feel about this. I mean, the company probably paid premium on his wages, so he is due his compensation. But then there's the whole illegal thing to get past.

http://www.omaha.com/article/20130104/NEWS/701049915/1685#court-illegal-immigrant-entitled-to-workers-comp



LINCOLN — David Gutierrez was left physically unable to work after his foot was run over by a forklift on the job at Omaha's Quality Pork International packing house in August 2008.

Trouble is, he was not able, legally, to hold a job at the meat plant. Gutierrez was the false name assumed by illegal immigrant Ricardo Moyera when he used purchased documents to land the job in March 2007.

In a case that went to the Nebraska Supreme Court, Moyera's employers argued that they should not have to pay an estimated $2 million over the rest of the worker's life to cover his lost wages and medical costs.

On Friday, the Nebraska Supreme Court ruled that Moyera, despite being an illegal immigrant from Mexico, is entitled to workers' compensation payments through his employer for his on-the-job injury.

It was the first time the high court has held that illegal immigrants are protected by state workers' compensation laws. The decision adopted and expanded a similar ruling made by the midlevel Nebraska Court of Appeals in 2009.

Written by Judge William Connolly, Friday's opinion followed the lead of other courts across the country. Those courts have reasoned that excluding workers in the U.S.

illegally from disability benefits creates a financial incentive to hire illegal immigrants and gives scofflaw employers an advantage over competitors who follow the law.

“This is an issue that's been rumbling and rumbling for years,” said Moyera's attorney, Michael P. Dowd of Omaha. “This is the first time it's been pushed to the point where we're going to decide this issue.”

Dowd said an increasing number of his clients are Spanish-speaking immigrants — from Mexico as well as from Cuba, El Salvador, Guatemala and elsewhere. He said those workers often are vulnerable to serious injury because they take dangerous jobs others won't accept. Many, such as Moyera, speak no English.

No tax dollars were directly at stake in the case. Workers' compensation benefits are financed by employers, who are mandated by law to carry workers' compensation insurance. The system is intended to limit employers' liability while providing injured workers an avenue for quick resolution of their claims.

In fact, Dowd argued that the ruling could save taxpayer expense by requiring the company to foot the bill for Moyera's injuries instead of leaving him to seek indigent health care.

“This decision really protects the taxpayers by maintaining the burden and the cost on the employer, who is the one deriving benefits from the worker's labor,” he said.

The lawyer representing the company was out of the office and unavailable to comment Friday. Officials with the company also declined to comment.

Dowd said Moyera is married and the father of three children born in the United States.

The forklift accident, which occurred when he was 29, broke several bones in Moyera's foot and led to reflex sympathetic dystrophy, a painful nerve disorder. He also suffers severe back and hip pain and must use a cane to walk. A mutually agreed upon rehabilitation expert concluded that Moyera had lost 100 percent of his earning capacity as a result of the injury.

Moyera's approximate benefits would include $333.88 per week for lost wages during his remaining life expectancy, plus $987 per month for his pain medication and about $2,000 per year for other medical expenses, said Dowd, who estimated the total cost to the company at more than $2 million.

After the injury, the pork packinghouse assigned Moyera to a light-duty janitorial position that enabled him to elevate his foot when it swelled. But in May 2010, after the company's personnel manager audited employment files, Moyera was fired for lack of proper immigration documents.

Attorneys for the packing plant challenged a Workers' Compensation Court finding in Moyera's favor. They pointed to a 2005 Nebraska Supreme Court ruling that illegal immigrants are not entitled to vocational rehabilitation services because they are not employable in the United States.

The attorneys contended that benefits for a permanent loss of earning power also should depend on an employee's ability to obtain lawful employment. Moyera had no earning capacity to lose, they argued, because his lack of English and his immigration status would prevent him from getting a new job in this country.

The high court, however, made a distinction between vocational rehabilitation and disability compensation. Connolly wrote that vocational rehabilitation services, intended to help a worker move into a new career, are triggered when a workplace injury prevents an employee from returning to the same job or a similar one. If a worker's immigration status makes him ineligible to return to work, the Workers' Compensation Court cannot order retraining for a different career.

In contrast, the court said, disability benefits reflect that the work-related injury prevents the employee from working in the United States or elsewhere.

The court also noted that the language of state workers' compensation law says it applies to “aliens” without a specific requirement that immigrants be in the United States legally.

“We agree that the ordinary meaning of 'aliens' is broad enough to include both legal and illegal aliens, with or without work authorization,” Connolly wrote, endorsing the Court of Appeals' reasoning. “Moreover, if it was the intent of the Nebraska Legislature to exclude illegal aliens from the definition of covered employees or workers, it could have easily included a modifier doing so in the statute, but the Legislature did not, and has not, done so.”

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#114 ·
I didn't read all 6. Or is it 7 pages?


Doesn't matter. This quote is from the first page.


He shouldn't sue anyone, infact he has no rights to sue anyone. If anything, depending on his legal citizenship, he should sue the US federal Govt...

1) he is here illegally, used false ID to obtain a job he wouldn't have gotten had he been honest. - this absolves the business. How were they supposed to know? They did all the required checks, and viola it's this guy.

2) he laid, falsified documents,and committed perjury on his tax returns.

How is the fed liable? And really, how can he sue them?

Easy, had it not for the fact that the US Federal Govt has grossly failed at its core job, which is to protect the states from an act of war, or an invasion, this person wouldn't be able to enter the US so easily buy documents and obtaina job. Therefore, the federal govt is at fault. They have failed the American people and they have failed the states, and therefore are thus liable for this persons life long injuries.

You say, but he did it illegally!

I say, well if the federal govt was serious about national security, as they so seemingly are on the nightly news, they would positition their military on the borders to keep said terrorists out and every other person out.

However,as been shown repeatedly the US Military is involved in 'other' activities. The borders of the Uas must not be important enough to secure, since the majority of the US Military is overseas.
Therefore the federal govt is here forth responsible...

And there you have it.. A plausible, legal defense...
 
#5 ·
How is it possible for him to lose 100% of his earning capabilities?

He can sit down and do an assembly job with his hands. It's really not the fault of the company for getting duped by the illegal. That's called being scammed and it happens all the time to people who are looking out for it. They've become good at scamming and that is how they work the system.

I figure this guy needs to have a fatal accident in the near future.
 
#6 ·
If he spoke English he might be more aware of safety issues,understood
his trainer,and been able to read the sign about putting his foot where
it shouldn't have been in the first place.

I always wonder how a couple local guys explain how to do something to
their non English speaking employees,then leave them alone on a job
with a HO he can't communicate with.
 
#10 ·
He crossed the border illegally.

He lied to get the job.

He was dumb enough to get his foot under a forklift.

He gets a lawyer to say he has lost 100% of his earning potential, another lie.

He is going to scam this business for wages the rest of his life, including after retirement age which he wouldn't have been working there anyway as most labor jobs don't come with a pension.

His life was to scam and lie his way through.

People get what they deserve. And he doesn't deserve a free ride.
 
#13 ·
One must differentiat the difference between a human and a parasite. The human born with the problem, human.
Parasite that lives off the problem and refuses to better himself, parasite.

Death on this earth is the destination, life is the journey, parasitical life brings death to those who try to make a difference, by dragging down the living with overtaxation.

You and me pay and pay and pay for subsidized crap, that wasn't in existance 100 years ago.

Should we keep having to paying for parasites we will ourselves not have this very country as we know it.
 
#12 ·
yea! go get em!
He only lost 100 % of the job he was doing. He can still work. There are *****loads of jobs out there should one apply himself and get off the socialism they are vying for.

Lets say he got a job @ a company that sold internet products, or an seo dude, or any internet based business. Only need your hands and and you mind.

So if he got carpel tunnel from typing could he get another 100%
 
#16 · (Edited)
This dude is a human being first. He got hurt, on the job. He should never have been hired for legally. The WC was paid legally and there to aid the Human being in getting his ankle repaired. That is all right and correct, not even the dumbest idiots deserve to go through life with an injury like that, if there are means to 'help'. Wishing him harm-not so positive in my book, although understandable.

After that he's here illegally. He's been outed as being here illegally. By of all things, the legal profession (speak volumes of the inane nature of this aspect of the legal system) - DEPORT HIM
 
#17 ·
Nothing in the article showed me that the employee was a burden on the system. It may be the case but it wasn't in the article. Taxes were paid if he was on the payroll. I also don't think that he should be denied WC if he was hurt on the job. That rewards the employer. In my experience the employers aren't the victims, they usually know they have undocumented workers. If you show me otherwise in this case then my opinion would change.
 
#19 ·
Let's be real. Many of those big companies are clearly aware of the employees immigration status. Heck, they probably go about helping them get through the paperwork thing. They are just looking for an excuse to get out of their obligations.

Quit hating on the illegals, and step up your own game
 
#20 ·
So I wonder what he will teach these kids of his.

That coming over as an illegal greatly helped him, and that they should think this way.

That getting hurt on the job as an illegal will get you a free ride for your entire life?

I feel sorry for the kids for having a father that would break all kinds of laws to make his living. I don't blame him for trying to feed his family. But, there are many ways he could have done so legally.

1st and foremost would have been to come here legally with the proper documentation. Not slink across the border and dupe a business with falsified documents to hire him.

I guess you can look at it two ways.

He is a dedicated family man that will go to any lengths to feed his family.

He is a criminal.
 
#21 ·
So I wonder what he will teach these kids of his.

I feel sorry for the kids for having a father that would break all kinds of laws to make his living. I don't blame him for trying to feed his family. But, there are many ways he could have done so legally.


He is a criminal.
All Legal BS and politics aside - Spot on
 
#22 ·
Criminal or not give me a neighbor willing to work (and even get injured doing so) for a living over a one who doesn't and has nothing. It's not like he was asking for handouts when he got injured on the job. He was working rather than stealing or working the government system for freebies. Is it odd that the majority of Hispanics that I have ever met actually work for a living illegal or not? Should we shame them for putting forth a greater effort than many citizens? And I would never wish death upon another I would wish for karma to those who do though.

The way I see it is there are two separate issues. First he provided his employer with false documents to appear legal to work, which he did until he was injured. For this he should receive all the benefits of any other legally insured employee. Second he lied and was working illegally, without his employers knowledge, and should go through the system for this action as it applies to him. Now if he was working under the table and the employer and employee were both skirting the system then both should be dealt with accordingly but that's just not the case according to the article.
 
#25 ·
I don't care. He didn't try. He came over as an illegal and got a job, illegally. Whether or not the company provided him with the papers or not, he knew what he was doing was illegal and proceeded to do it anyway.

Once you are in here illegally everything from that point on is illegal IMO. You should not be here, you should not have crossed over the border, you should not have gotten any type of job, you should not be entitled to any type of US helping system. You should be jailed, fined, and deported.
 
#27 ·
I have an ADA qualifying disease that is incurable but very few that know me well know it unless I tell them so don't be to quick to judge others ability to work. It has ultimately been a deciding factor in the loss of two different 6 figure jobs and a contributing factor in not being able to obtain a position with the same income level. Sure many with a disability can and do find work but it isn't at their full earning potential as a result of that disability.

I will reserve my opinion regarding the other aspects of this discussion.
 
#28 ·
But you can still work some kind of job. You are not 100% unable to work.
 
#29 ·
If I were to press I could probably draw 100% disability. But I don't know if i will ever be able to demand the salary I did just a few years ago in the corporate world as a result of my disease.

A job that takes you an hour could take me 2 on some days. Or a two week job may take me four. Then again there are days were it has no impact on my output. So even though I can work my earning potential is impacted regardless. I chose to try to find a way to make more than I can on disability but don't know if i will be able to.

All I am saying is being able to work and being able to earn at your previous potential are not the same. This is where disability payments come into play.
 
#30 ·
Dude did not speak any English says the article. Please tell me of where in the USA can one become a full grown adult without learning how to speak any English. Nowhere is not a recognized territory of the USA so obviously he came from elsewhere.
The company that hired him knew full well his status, yet they hired him any way, and they get rewarded for it?
the dude is a criminal, sure he committed a misdemeanor offense, punishable with deportation, with the purpose of supporting a family. For this he deserves to die?
No construction worker on here has ever drove drunk, got in a fist fight smoked a joint, taken a pill that was not prescribed to them, drove with out a license, gave alcohol to younger worker etc, right so your so much better then that guy. I have only heard of one carpenter that never did any of those his name was Jesus he made us all so maybe some compassion
 
#31 ·
He will most likely take this money, change his name again and work for cash (one of the guys in the HD parking lot) or for someone else under his new name. The part that makes me mad is I do work for a lot of ranchers who hire people from peru and what a crap load of paper work and other BS to get them here.Then they have to get the housing inspected, proof of pay, proof of food provided or comp for food. It just kills me that we penalize the people trying to come here legally and give the shirt off our backs to the ones that come illeagally. This story is just a symptom of a larger problem that needs to be dealt with.
 
#34 ·
Problem is the consequences for breaking laws in this country are either too light or are never seen through to the end. There is almost no risk for these legals to come here (once they've crossed)

This guy was a criminal before anything else, he now has a free ride for life and is probably still here illegally!