im posting this because a couple people made some good points as far as a definite start date not given to me. now i've got a definite start date, october 5th. i know i got some criticism for the lack of work this guy has but my last boss isnt working either. i know quite a few contractors that are flat out not working. its rough where i live. the work is going to last through the winter so at least i know i got that, and if he falls through in the spring i can work for the landscaper again.