Ok, so today I decided to stop by the job and visit with the company doing the roofs as the have started last week. I met the owner/operator of the roofing company (he is a sub contractor). He has an 8 man crew, Id say the have a total of 25+ piercings.
OK this gets real good. He tells me he and another company was hired by the GC to do all the apartments. Turns out the other guy has already bailed because he is seeing that there is no money involved. The apartments have two separate locations about a block from one another. They have been working on the ones on top of the hill. They have about 5 buildings done and he says that he's been anywhere between 2-5 square short on each building. Well of coarse he didn't measure the ones on top of the hill, the other guy did. Or atleast that what he's trying to tell himself. As you guys remember me saying this job had some detailed specs such as; all materials must be made in USA (which they are not), only GAF OC or Certainteed products can be used (their felt is not, their I&W is not), all existing shingles and felt must be removed (they are leaving the old felt, yep even where the I&W is). Most of these building are under a 4/12 so full I&W is being used. WTF is the point if it's not adhered to the plywood? There is over 450sq of I&W and it's all going to be a waste by being installed this way. They are reusing all old roofing boots, which the specs said to replace. There are a few more things but you guys get the point.
He ask me if I would be interested in subbing the ones on the bottom of the hill. Yeah I would but I bet there is no way he can afford me. I guess he's going to loose money either way, maybe he will loose and at least not have to do all the work. He then ask me how well I know the housing director, why? I think he wants me to sweet talk her for him. I've already informed the head of maintenance so we'll see what happens from here.
Another "GC wanna be Roofer" deal.
There's only one consolation to losing a job to an outfit like this...seeing it explode in their faces.
Time after time after time I've lost work to these "do it all" types. They'd bid a roof "at cost" to them, but make it up on the siding. It's business, okay, I understand that.
But when someone goes with the lowest bid to try to make as much on their end while flaking out on the details of the project (especially cutting corners and using substandard labor), I LOVE IT when they lose a dollar in trying to save a penny and it puts a huge grin on my face when I drive by and see their roof all "F"-ed up!
I love it more when they have to do it all over again just months later, then guess what? Mo money, mo money, mo money!
Some people have to lose tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars before they learn to drop the arrogance they wear like so much jewelry.
I didn't get a 25sq job.
Lost it to some handymen.
It took them literally 2 months, everyday, to do the job.
Everybody says the roof looks worse than when they installed it.
I went on to another job in which I knocked out 40sq job in 5 days with 1 helper that I began while they were on their last week.
I lost a 40sq job to the homeowner's "Carpenter" relative who was unemployed. Took him 6 weeks to do the job.
First rain they had house was flooded.
Now, he has to not only re-do the roof, but the interior work!
The homeowner now wants me to go back and to inspect the roof and will pay me to fix any issues. Nice lady...she gave her relative a shot because he direly needed the money, but I feel sorry for her.
I have a feeling that she probably payed premium for that work (she is very generous) and got a really bad roof. I'll be happy to help her out though.