rpk7309:
No, but this week I billed for over 2K to restore 11 panels in 4 sliding doors. The customers were delighted because this means they didn't have to spend about $27,000.00 on code-required hurricane doors with the turtle glass tinting. The light pollution on the coast confuses the baby turtles so they head for your living room instead of the moonlight out to sea.
Anyone on here ever install accordian-style hurricane shutters on a patio slider door (ones that close vertically)? Wondered how easy or diffucult it was...thanks
So you fixed 11 panels on what type of shutters?rpk7309:
No, but this week I billed for over 2K to restore 11 panels in 4 sliding doors. The customers were delighted because this means they didn't have to spend about $27,000.00 on code-required hurricane doors with the turtle glass tinting. The light pollution on the coast confuses the baby turtles so they head for your living room instead of the moonlight out to sea.
How is the shutter bus. in your area? I see a lot of shutter companies have added/offer window installations in their scope over the last several yrs. People would rather put that cash into newer energy efficient impact windows once they get the price of shutters. But I would guess there is still a good commercial market?Why would they need to spend 27 grand on code approved doors? If they put shutters over standard doors and and close them during turtle season, wouldn't that work?
Why would they need to spend 27 grand on code approved doors? If they put shutters over standard doors and and close them during turtle season, wouldn't that work?
The oceanfront home in question was built in 1972 and had the original sliding doors. I replaced the rollers that were replaced in '94 or so. Many were corroded solid.
Shutters are an alternative to door replacement, but have no insulation value. The original doors are solid 1/4" glass, unlike modern layered doors.
I don't think you'd want to raise and lower a hurricane shutter every time you went in and out during turtle hatching season.
Nope, but I watched them a bunch a times. Read the installation specs.
So you fixed 11 panels on what type of shutters?
27K , condo, 8' doors, elevator access? That sounds like that quote could be in the ballpark.
I thought you just needed to close your drapes and have ''turtle lights'' on the exterior. Or you can be fined.
All new builds have to be ''turtle code''.
How is the shutter bus. in your area? I see a lot of shutter companies have added/offer window installations in their scope over the last several yrs. People would rather put that cash into newer energy efficient impact windows once they get the price of shutters. But I would guess there is still a good commercial market?
The oceanfront home in question was built in 1972 and had the original sliding doors. I replaced the rollers that were replaced in '94 or so. Many were corroded solid.
Shutters are an alternative to door replacement, but have no insulation value. The original doors are solid 1/4" glass, unlike modern layered doors.
I don't think you'd want to raise and lower a hurricane shutter every time you went in and out during turtle hatching season.
Anyone on here ever install accordian-style hurricane shutters on a patio slider door (ones that close vertically)? Wondered how easy or diffucult it was...thanks
Anyone on here ever install accordian-style hurricane shutters on a patio slider door (ones that close vertically)? Wondered how easy or diffucult it was...thanks
Well, I'm a manufacturer only and ship all over the country so business is quite steady. Our product wouldn't work for the OP's application because it is clear, but I have seen other opaque models that would. I don't know the cost differential so maybe $27k isn't such a bad price but I just can't stand the idea of unprotected "impact" glass on a ground floor.
IMO, "impact" windows are a complete misnomer because impact is the thing that they AREN'T good at. I just did a hurricane expo a couple weeks ago and demonstrated the impact strength of a window vs. our clear shutter - not much of a contest. One rap with a hammer and the impact window is trash. I cannot understand why folks want to pour money into windows just to have to buy them again when they break. That is why none of my dealers will recommend the use of impact windows for a ground floor application unless they are in a protected area.
Since I have experience and have installed Shutters and Windows over the last 12 years......
Unless you build a house with specific designs of hurricane shutters, then most installations are ugly and create huge leaking issues. Also, can create fire hazards as shutters are Not supposed to be used in non storm related times.
Impact Windows and Doors are Impact RESISTANT. They are meant to be a sacrifice to save you, the home and your contents.
Beyond the reasoning of having to replace glass if it gets broken, normally during a HURRICANE. Impact windows also provide insulating value, security and you do not have to remember to close them before you leave every time to provide protection, where as most people close and locks their windows. Oh and you can escape out of them during an emergency, easily.
And yes, some shutters can be opened from the interior when the locks are made that way, but you and I both know its a pain in the arse and code only requires 1 exit point in a hurricane so most shutters are not installed for that purpose. :thumbup:
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I don't doubt that customers are mis-lead (lied to) and told that impact window glass doesn't break. That is on the crappy companies that take advantage of people and straight lie.
Seems that for every good company there are 10 bad ones.
My customers who buy impact windows are fine with knowing that the window will have to be replaced if it is damaged during a storm or whatever. Typically falls on insurance at that point so they don't care.
If the glass is damaged during somthing mild, I can replace the glass pretty cheap.
I have had to replace/repair shutters because of damage so to me it doesn't matter what I am repairing.