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I got a call the other day about putting a bluestone veneer on the front of a concrete porch and went to check it out.

The porch was formed and poured right into the foundation and then they put a concrete deck on it, but didn't overhang the concrete, they went flush with the wall.

I think originally they weren't planning on a veneer since there is no ledge either. Because it is only 20" though I have a friend at a welding that can make me up an iron ledge.

Anyway, I am looking for ideas on how finish the top of it off properly. I think without the concrete overhanging no matter what I do at the top is going to look incomplete.

I am also a little concerned about water at that joint between the stone and the concrete, even though there is a roof over the porch any water that gets on it is going to pitch right at the veneer and run down the face of it.

I attached a high quality paint drawing of what I am trying to describe.

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Either bluestone the whole top or cut a notch 2 1/2" for a tread to be inset into the concrete. Other then that I got nothing.
 

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Either bluestone the whole top or cut a notch 2 1/2" for a tread to be inset into the concrete. Other then that I got nothing.
The notch idea sound's promising, I will mention it when I meet with him again.

I wish they would have called a mason before going crazy with the porch deck, they could have figured out they needed a ledge with a glance at the plans.
 

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I'm thinking the same as JBM. Best option is the cover the deck with stone, the notch is probably the realistic option, but there is still a possibility of water penetrating. I wouldn't set that stone in mortar, i would set it in PL and make a continuous line of it end to end to stop any water from getting to the wall stone
 

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The stone is ordered and he liked the idea of the notch. Not sure if I should thank JBM or not though.

Now I have to cut the damn thing.

Should give it a nice finished look when it's done though.
 

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lol I know what you mean, but it will make for some good and after photos.
I have to remember to take them, I suck so bad at after photos because usually the last day I am just anxious to tear down any staging, pack up the trailer and get the hell to the bank to deposit my check.

Then I get home and my wife says "How did it turn out?" and I say to myself. "Dammit, I forgot to take pictures again"
 

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I'm way worse with before pics. I'm so busy getting started and getting things worked out and to a place where I can start making money that I totally forget about pics. You can go back weeks later and get after pics
 

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I'm way worse with before pics. I'm so busy getting started and getting things worked out and to a place where I can start making money that I totally forget about pics. You can go back weeks later and get after pics
I have a thread on here from a few weeks ago about a chimney that I didn't even follow up on because the only picture I have is from way out by the road.

I put the final two courses on and bumped down 6 sets of roof jacks and 5 sections of scaffolding before I remembered I had to take an after picture.

I was kicking myself, and the roof was in such bad shape I couldn't get a ladder up there.

I have a whole folder full of before pictures like that on my computer and crappy far away after shots because I couldn't be back up to where I was.
 

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Well I finally got started and got the notches cut, hopefully I can get the steps and the caps put in tomorrow.

I need to pick your guys brains once more though about the veneer.

Originally it was going to be standard 4" veneer so my plan was to build it with a cavity behind and weeps at the bottom, they changed it for whatever reason to 2" though and I am not sure if I should still leave the cavity behind and the weeps or if I should grout in behind them as I go up. I am afraid I will have stability issues while stacking them since they are so thin.

Are aren't quite thin enough to be thinstone veneer though, so I really don't know which method would be best. It is only an 18" tall run thankfully, so I am not concerned about the additional weight on the ledge, just about the stacking and the normal water migration, it is over poured concrete walls too.

Once I get this project finished up I am going to keep pushing for patios and walkways, way easier on my brain.
 

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2 3/4" is the thinnest that you can consider as "normal" veneer. I would grout the back nad forget about weeps. Treat it as a hybrid.

Personally I would also only do 1/2 at a time. 18" isn't much but at only 2" it could get pretty wobbly by the time you're up to height. Would suck to see a big bulge (commence jokes) in the wall the next day
 

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I like that plan too. I planned on going overboard with ties also.

After I get the steps and caps on it's shelter time, I hate working in those things.

Stupid cold, it's going to take me twice as long to finish this project I bet.
 
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