JF:

Dude you have just set the record for the most replys in any post!!

38!! So FAR!

 

well...I did start the thread :whistling, kinda rude not to reply :blink:

so, how many am I up to now?

 

..and now?

 

what about now?

 

I usually blow through crown jobs pretty quickly too, especially with a helper. And we do take the time to make every corner and splice perfect, if there's more than a hairline gap we re-cut or shim it to make it tight.
There's really nothing to it, I don't understand why it pays so well and so many people have trouble installing it.

 

There's really nothing to it, I don't understand why it pays so well and so many people have trouble installing it.

I've done mainly stain grade crown, yeah dont understand the fear of it. And I dont cope.

 

you are absolved my son, go forth and sin no more...

this is of course, for wwfb

 

you are absolved my son, go forth and sin no more...

this is of course, for wwfb

Thats Mr wwfb

 

aw man, now ya went and gave him the easy way out...I wondered if he was going to figure out that your aren't getting $5 a foot on production work, at least not on these sized/priced homes....so you have to really be moving to make anything.

 

not gonna get $5 a ft for any type of home here whether it be custom or spec.

 

How many posts am I up to Warren?

 

say 10 hail mary's and go falcons and you will be forgiven :laughing:

 

free Vick....
ohh yea, they already did....
now send him to the Raiders:thumbup:

 

Alright guys, I'm out for the night...the boss is on her way home from school, gotta go clean up my mess in the kitchen...fast. :laughing:

Warren, I would appreciate a full report of my post count for this thread (and any others) by morning, thank you and good night.

 

No, I wasn't peeved I didn't know you as J F in the other thread. I wasn't peeved when you posted that either. It takes quite a bit more than a post to do that.

 

Like I said, I took a look at your other posts...glad to have you back, stick around.

 

Man, I'm not even going to tell you guys how long it took me to do crown on my last kitchen. :no: It came out real nice though. Hey, I'm a framer !!
What's coping ? Just kidding............

 

Running crown is no more taxing than running base. Actually I prefer it. The corners are cleaner at ceiling level as opposed to base and you don't have to bend over to get paid.:w00t::laughing:

 

:shutup: But yeah, I'd much rather run crown than base. I hate baseboard work.

As for $1.75 a foot for production work...I wish...not on these homes (and they weren't bad homes, just the same same same same same, but nice same :laughing

 

you don't have to bend over to get paid

Now that's funny when you think about it:laughing:

 

Back when I first started working in this business, Me, and a helper would run about 1,200-1,600 linear feet of base moulding a day. It was hard on the body, I would be jogging back and forth all day...

We would setup on the top floor, and work our way down. I would cut, and he would nail. The trick was limiting your trips back and forth to the saw. I would measure, and cut all straight pieces throughout the whole floor, then dump them in place, and then it was on to all of the copes, rinse and repeat lol.

I was in great shape back then. We worked on that project for almost 3 years.

 

That would be the day from hell, all that baseboard, ugh :shutup:. My knees and back hurt just reading that. :laughing:

And yeah, it's most efficient to have one guy cutting everything keeping ahead of the installer, (which was me) that's what we did on the second floor (where we started). As we moved down to the first floor we'd have 2 saw stations set-up, I'd do the pediments and 2 rooms of crown then start installing all the crap that was cut.

My cut man would have everything cut for the room: crown, base, stool, casing, that way there was no having to go into the room more than once for install (unless the occasional piece was cut wrong, but that wasn't very often).

And the doors were all pre-cased, with the normal having to dick around with an open miter every so often (or cracked casing from delivery).

Fun stuff.

 

Interior doors

Back then I could install about 60 interior doors a day too. Same concept basically. We would carry all the doors, and put them in place on each house.

The distributor of the doors did make life easier by sending pre-cut casings. We would nail the casings on the one side (inside) of the door.

After all the doors were setup this way, I would level them off by nailing them through the casings, and move on to the next. My helper would come along after I was finished to shim them, and case the back of the door.

All Bi-folds and sliders were in sheet rock returns. The job was great!

 

Yeah, these were all split-jamb, pre-cased. That's why I could place all the doors myself (except for the double doors), and install them in 5 hours or so (21-22 doors).

As far as the coping on the baseboard, I would do it the same as those guys if the sides weren't outside miters...whenever possible, I always want some pressure on the cope. I didn't have an issue with them until being called a bs'r about the trim times.

Like I stated somewhere above, it would be interesting to see what the fastest guys in the country could do in a competition. I'll bet you'd see some sub 10 minute times.

 

Yeah, these were all split-jamb, pre-cased. That's why I could place all the doors myself (except for the double doors), and install them in 5 hours or so (21-22 doors).

As far as the coping on the baseboard, I would do it the same as those guys if the sides weren't outside miters...whenever possible, I always want some pressure on the cope. I didn't have an issue with them until being called a bs'r about the trim times.

Like I stated somewhere above, it would be interesting to see what the fastest guys in the country could do in a competition. I'll bet you'd see some sub 10 minute times.

you cant install a dbl door by yourself?:sad:

 

Nice. Do you have to take more than one pass with sharp cutters or just run it through and you're done? How many hp?

 

Nice. Do you have to take more than one pass with sharp cutters or just run it through and you're done? How many hp?

Depends on which machine I'm using and which head it is. Some of those things get pretty big (20 hp). Rarely do I have to make more then one pass and then the adjustment is so small, it is more because it's a wood I've never tried before and I'm doing a test run. With sharp knives and the right feed rate, you don't EVER need to do more then one pass. Also depends on if your knives are HSS, carbide or diamond. Ever run a diamond head? No touch up sanding required at all. Smooth as glass.

 

I installed them by myself, just didn't carry 'em up the stairs by myself ya goober :w00t:

 

yer arms to short to reach across a 4'er and pick it up:laughing:

 

If it wasn't pre-cased, but the casing tends to get a little fubar'd....don't ask me how I know :shifty:

 

same here, dont tote them unless I have too,
and than the casing is about to fall off and I bang up every wall I pass by.
on the occasional custom job we get solid core 8' doors.:blink:
have pulled quite a few nut muscles trying to lift them by myself

 

on the occasional custom job we get solid core 8' doors.:blink:
have pulled quite a few nut muscles trying to lift them by myself

LOL :thumbsup:

 

:laughing:

 

damn, now I have to go down and kick my router table. :laughing: My most expensive bits are $120 amana raised panel bits....which I normally will make 3 passes with.

 

damn, now I have to go down and kick my router table. :laughing: My most expensive bits are $120 amana raised panel bits....which I normally will make 3 passes with.

That's a router. That's expected. I went from a router to a shaper, to multipule shapers, to moulders. BTW, Amana are good. I've bought/ still do, stuff from them. Just recieved their catalog 3 days ago.

Just an FYI, with the current housing slump, all the BIG furniture and moulding people are going down and you can buy their equipment at rock bottom prices.

 

Depending on how much crown I am carrying I can run about 100 yards in 20 seconds. I waited a while before I posted that :laughing:

 

:w00t: :laughing: