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Why is that I see a Saturday Night Live skit in here somewhere?

How boring would life be without people like this guy?

I hope the Mason's wife pulls through without much more trouble.:thumbsup:
 
Some times when you are in the middle of something you can't see it as clearly as someone who isn't involved in it.

It seems like both the contractor and the customer don't see each others point of view.

The contractor seems to believe that the only question here is whether he is responsible for the masons behaviour or not. He keeps saying over and over and over that he is not. The potential customer doesn't think you are responsible, that is why he isn't hearing your protests.

The potential customer viewed you as a trusted advisor. What he is angry about is that he is suffering the consequences of following your advice and you don't care.He seems outraged that you can't see that. It's human nature not to trust people that don't care about you. You also gave him what appears to be bad advice(I know, I know, through no fault of your own) by recommending the mason.

This may be hard to hear, but you went from being a "trusted advisor" to "contractor that doesn't get it".

I hope somebody finds this helpful and appreciates the scorn and ridicule I'm exposing myself to. :laughing::laughing:
 
Vinny,

While you may be right that neither side can see the view point of the other, the OP is doing the right thing by bailing on this potential client. Furthermore, the client suffered no damages, and had other masons bid it for him. The OP called the mason, and the mason did not return calls.

No good deed goes unpunished
 
Some times when you are in the middle of something you can't see it as clearly as someone who isn't involved in it.

It seems like both the contractor and the customer don't see each others point of view.

The contractor seems to believe that the only question here is whether he is responsible for the masons behaviour or not. He keeps saying over and over and over that he is not. The potential customer doesn't think you are responsible, that is why he isn't hearing your protests.

The potential customer viewed you as a trusted advisor. What he is angry about is that he is suffering the consequences of following your advice and you don't care.He seems outraged that you can't see that. It's human nature not to trust people that don't care about you. You also gave him what appears to be bad advice(I know, I know, through no fault of your own) by recommending the mason.

This may be hard to hear, but you went from being a "trusted advisor" to "contractor that doesn't get it".

I hope somebody finds this helpful and appreciates the scorn and ridicule I'm exposing myself to. :laughing::laughing:
I won't scorn or ridicule you, but I think you need to clean the rose colored glasses you are seeing through.
 
Discussion starter · #88 · (Edited)
Some times when you are in the middle of something you can't see it as clearly as someone who isn't involved in it.

It seems like both the contractor and the customer don't see each others point of view.

The contractor seems to believe that the only question here is whether he is responsible for the masons behaviour or not. He keeps saying over and over and over that he is not. The potential customer doesn't think you are responsible, that is why he isn't hearing your protests.

The potential customer viewed you as a trusted advisor. What he is angry about is that he is suffering the consequences of following your advice and you don't care.He seems outraged that you can't see that. It's human nature not to trust people that don't care about you. You also gave him what appears to be bad advice(I know, I know, through no fault of your own) by recommending the mason.

This may be hard to hear, but you went from being a "trusted advisor" to "contractor that doesn't get it".

I hope somebody finds this helpful and appreciates the scorn and ridicule I'm exposing myself to. :laughing::laughing:
Dude,

The Mason NEVER HAS DONE ANY WORK THERE, THERE IS NO CONTRACTED JOB OR AGREEMENTS.

THE MASON HAS MET TWO TIMES WITH THIS GUY ALREADY...and managed to keep those appointments.

HE'S MISSED THE LAST SEVERAL APPOINTMENTS = TO REVIEW THE VERY SAME AREAS.

THERE IS NO CONTRACT, THERE ARE NO AGREEMENTS, THERE IS NO WORK - FOR ANYONE TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR!!!!!!.

WTF!
 
Some times when you are in the middle of something you can't see it as clearly as someone who isn't involved in it.

It seems like both the contractor and the customer don't see each others point of view.

The contractor seems to believe that the only question here is whether he is responsible for the masons behaviour or not. He keeps saying over and over and over that he is not. The potential customer doesn't think you are responsible, that is why he isn't hearing your protests.

The potential customer viewed you as a trusted advisor. What he is angry about is that he is suffering the consequences of following your advice and you don't care.He seems outraged that you can't see that. It's human nature not to trust people that don't care about you. You also gave him what appears to be bad advice(I know, I know, through no fault of your own) by recommending the mason.

This may be hard to hear, but you went from being a "trusted advisor" to "contractor that doesn't get it".

I hope somebody finds this helpful and appreciates the scorn and ridicule I'm exposing myself to. :laughing::laughing:
What you are missing is that
the HO is a user.
He is using multiple contractors
to play one against the other.
The sooner I figure out I'm dealing
with one of these guys,
the less he costs me.
 
Man I see it from all angles.. tough situation for sure.. sucks that you couldn't take yourself out of the situation or there is no separation between you and the other guy in the H/O'ers mind. From now on no referrals? I don't know man. Tough call.
 
just imagine if the customer never asked for a referral and you ended up doing the job.... Chances are you would of taken the job and you would of done a great job since youre reputation precedes itself....

so instead of this thread you would of started one about a great homeowner that has referred you dozens of times now....

but instead it is the potential customer's fault and youre lucky cause it would of went downhill the day you started it. correct?
 
just imagine if the customer never asked for a referral and you ended up doing the job.... Chances are you would of taken the job and you would of done a great job since youre reputation precedes itself....

so instead of this thread you would of started one about a great homeowner that has referred you dozens of times now....

but instead it is the potential customer's fault and youre lucky cause it would of went downhill the day you started it. correct?
Your name says it all. :thumbsup:
 
HE'S MISSED THE LAST SEVERAL APPOINTMENTS = TO REVIEW THE VERY SAME AREAS.

How many trips did the ho expect the mason to make do you think? Sounds very hectic.
 
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