Gunn - there's something on TV right now you oughta' watch. Turn on any network channel. :cheesygri :cheesygriGunnCon said:they are big contributors to the republican party which in itself is reason enough for me to boycott home depot.
I never posted to get into a political debate. I posted with my feelings as a contractor vs a mega corporation mentality. If you think for one second that all you can do is vote you need to open your eyes and look around you at what is going on in the world. The world is a lot larger than as you put it million dollar contracts. I am not a large contractor that has million dollar contracts I am a small and struggling contractor like most. But when you say INSTEAD OF GOING AGAINST THE CURRENT AND FIGHTING A LOSING BATTLE it reminds me of many things like for instance Rosa Park. Do you think that’s what she thought? Go with the flow, We can’t change things? This is not a Fleecing of America mentality this is standing up for what you believe in. And I believe in fighting for what is right and not going with the flow. You have a right to believe in what you believe in and I have a right as and American and a contractor to say and believe in what I think is right. This is not a losing battle this is a battle I will not give up like you have.IHI said:Without getting into a big political debate which I could care less about since all we can really do is vote, I'll just say for us smaller contractors that are not doing multi million dollar contracts the HD is just another avenue for us to try to make a few bucks. Instead of going against the current and fighting a losing battle, the fact remains they have stepped into the home repair market, like wal-Mart consumers see a big corporate name and feel "safe" working with them. I can tell you the price they pay is usually higher than what "we the private contractors" would normally bid a job for so if the customer is going to go with HD WE cannot control that fact so why fight it. I do agree with the whole "fleecing of america" mentality you have, but I cant ignore the fact there is market out there I'd rather be a part of than being proud and fighting it. They provide work, they pay me, I get paid to render my services to customers that would not otherwise probably call me ouot of the blue, BUT I can guaruntee you after I'm done with an install, they will remember me and know what other services I can provide. This in itself IMO is a great marketing tool, like said-"getting paid to advertise"
When we advertise through different markets weather it be radio spots, tv spots, newspaper ads, flyers, mailers, etc...we're making a financial commitment with NO guaruntee it'll pay for itself, we only hope to hit the advertising just right so it pays off. So the HD avenue for my company IMO is a marketing ploy that I get paid for instead of me writing a check out. The number of customers I reach is smaller, BUT my work and ethics will speak for itself since homeowners must be home at time of install I get a good duration of face time and they get to know me first hand and they will hopefully tell their freinds about me when the subject comes up of home improvements. On the bigger installs I've never once left without the homeowner asking for a few business cards.
By being too proud and flat out refusing to do this or that, the only one it's really hurting is you since your limiting your potential. If your already big enough to generate your own big budget projects (which most of us hope to do someday) your doing great. But beileve me, when it comes to pricing HD cannot touch us as contractors selling jobs privately for often better materials at a lower price, and it's not like they're building houses, garages, room additions, total room remodels, HD is just trying to cash in on little snip-it's of the project. I've gotten a few jobs because our HD could'nt deliver a complete multi stepped renovation (they just offered one step), and MOST homeowners would rather go through 1 person to handle all the details instead of farming out 10 different aspects of a job to 10 different people-that's our job as contrators.
We all have our opinons and I respect yours, but it's tough to fight something that is not going to go away like a fly by night contractor, so I say embrasse it if you can....it's only money :Thumbs: :cheesygri
I will and can butt heads with your multi million dollar company as you so state. I will never bow down to a corporate giant when it comes to feeding my family.IHI said:I'm just a middle guy playing both sides for my personal income is all. You can believe all you want, but neither you, me or anybody else is going to try to butt heads with a muti billion dollar company that spends more on marketing to generate their own income a year than what most of us small struggling contractors make is half a lifetime :cheesygri
Cant believe I sound like I'm sticking up for them, but it's late and I'm bored...we'll play around a little There is a big difference between Rosa Park and what she did, as opposed to HD. She was tired of being mistreated and discriminated against so she took a stand for her rights as a human being.
HD is a business just as yours, mine, and everybody else on this board and throughout the world. Their goal is to make money period same as us. They have alot larger resource to make this happen than say you or I, but ultimately they are doing the same things as us, marketing and selling. It's just that simple.
Corporate america is corporate america and unless something illiegal puts an end to them, they are far too large for even a state full of people to take a stand at. Look at Wal-Mart, everybody says how much they hate wal mart and their new business practices running everybody else out of business, but guess what, these same people griping are still shopping at wal mart since you cant beat their prices. It'd be hard to be so proud to routinely lose money or spend more than you have to on a consistent basis just to prove a point or be proud....which might be the reason your a struggling contractor :cheesygri
Do what you gotta do to put money in the bank, even if it means doing something you dont agree with. This is life and there's alot of things millions dont agree with but do it anyways because it puts food on the table and pays the bills. I understand your principal, but just dont think it's practical in this case. Maybe one say when I conquer the world and money is no object, I too will forgo some of these things because "I can", but right now I've got bills to pay and a family to raise so I'll do what's necessary to keep the roof over our heads and food on the table.
GunnCon said:I am a small and struggling contractor like most.