You've jumped from " if yall **** with her, you got me to deal with. " ends all that", to now discussing physical and age limitations which we ALL deal with and are two completely different issues...Your interpretation of me be concerned for people's physical safety and health as treating women and older or extremely small guys as above everyone else tells me you wouldn't fit in. LOL
That's apparent in all our discussions - you have your way, I have mine. I'll do what works for me. To be clear, o have changed dozens if not more things about my operation due to this site, just don't dig most of your way of doing things. I'm sure it's mutual.
One of the girls that works for me weighs about 110 lb. No, I will not ask her to carry something that is 60% of her body weight.
If I hired a woman who was bigger and stronger she could do more stuff. But as a whole women aren't built like men. If I hired a cross fit gal she can lift whatever she wants. Shes trained/ing for it. That isn't most women
My painter's son work for me on college break last Summer, I also did not have him carrying extremely heavy s*** he probably weighs 125 lbs. And not a strong 125 lb
Common courtesy does not mean I treat a laborer with the same rules I do a foreman. Doesn't work like that anywhere to my knowledge. If it does I wouldn't want to work there and sure as hell ain't going to run my company that way.
Take for example one of my highly-skilled guy's truck is broke down so he is driving the company truck home at night. If my laborers truck broke down I will tell him to walk get a ride. LOL. He hasn't earned that trust and respect
There is a difference between common respect and individual respect. It's like reputation.
Either way, you are correct, it is my company and we will do things how I want to do them. I'll let you know if I get bit but I doubt it will be too bad if I do.
If it was a big deal to someone - it isn't to me - they could have a lift test before they hired. Anyone who can't pick 115 lbs over their head can't work here in the field
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Sent from my SM-N920V using TapatalkYou've jumped from " if yall **** with her, you got me to deal with. " ends all that", to now discussing physical and age limitations which we ALL deal with and are two completely different issues...
Conflating them doesn't add anything to the discussion... Common courtesy and respect mean exactly that... Common, as in shared by all... you don't say "you guys can't say off-color words/jokes around the female on the jobsite" and make them PC around each other and on the lookout for when she's around... if off-color words/jokes were a concern for you, you'd approach it from a common courtesy perspective "no off-color words/jokes on the jobsite period"... We certainly ask our guys to be professional and not do it in front of the customer, but not each other and wouldn't ask the female not to just because she's a female...
You're right though... we are different in how we approach our companies... separated by decades of experience in owning them, and we all give and take on this site (we all offer different experiences/perspectives and draw what we need from the site), but from what I've read, you seem a good man, a good father and husband and someone who works hard at and loves what he does...
It sounds like it's working how you want it to work for you... as it does for me... that's all that matters...
Well the guy who draws the long straw....Been here 19 years. Had 1 female apply for a construction position.
She didn't have any experience in our industry. She didn't get hired.
My main question was, what do you do when the crew goes out of town? I typically have crews of 4. I setup 2 hotel rooms. 2 men in each room.
If I hire a female, does that mean I need to get a separate hotel room or would that be considered special treatment? Should she bunk with a man? I don't know the right answer there. I haven't had to figure it out yet.
I thought it was funny the guy with no wife and kids telling you that you didn't know women. I about peed myself. The expert in all things just got mic dropped.Mother, 3 sisters, wife, 2 daughters---I've got it pretty well figured out. It's not how their minds work---it's how you work with their minds.
I also strongly stand by my statement about Essy.
Ok, I'll be more clear. I thought the OP's article provided enough context to have some civil chit-chat without calling the question dumb and/or calling it a trap.Is that all ya got? How intelligent. At least, even though with passion, I can articulate my point with clarity.
I apologize for my poorly worded question. My purpose was exploring if hiring more women would help with the labor shortage issue. What I am hearing from y'all though, is for the most part women aren't applying for work. Of course, that makes me wonder why...