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I just bought a ranch house (29'x46') with a 3/12 metal roof with a 16" overhang. I need some professional advice - the pros and cons of trying to change the style of the house to a Cape. What I am looking for is two-fold: increase the pitch and gain some more room. The roof is driving me nuts in the winter (Northern NY)- the snow does not slide off the roof, I'm getting ice build up. :mad: I've had problems with the melting snow & ice leaking through to the ceilings. One problem is the pine needles are keeping the snow from sliding off the roof. I've tried to keep it clean, but, it is in an area that I basically can't keep the pine needles off unless I cut down all the trees around. I thought that maybe if I increased the pitch 7/12 or 8/12 and put on a colored metal roof I would solve the problem.

One builder suggested that I have the rafters removed, add a 4 foot knee wall then go with the higher pitch and that would help with the snow and give me the extra room I was looking for.

I'm a first time homeowner, go easy on me! What should be my next move - What kind of questions should I be asking, what kind of prices should I be prepared for? Let's assume the current structure will carry the load. I will have that checked out - it was built in the early 70's and was built very solidly.

Any help would be appreciated!
 

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Changing home STYLES can be quite expensive.
I'll let the roofer handle your current problems. I do remember some old articles about snow being an insulator and nails working out of old structures holding it in place. This was desireable.
I have spent my whole life in the tropics and don't want to hear about snow.
 

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Thanks

Thanks for your help. For the most part I enjoy the north country- it is the snow on the roof that drives me nuts. Plus I do not like getting on the roof - so that adds to the problem.

I was wondering if you can remove the upper part of the the trusses, sister the bottom part of the truss for support with what you would use for your floor supports and build from there. In that way it shouldn't disturb the first floor ceiling. But what do I know? I'll have to ask the roofer.
 

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There are plenty of Yankee roofers here. Bide your time.
 

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Actually when we see a roof with snow on it...it is usually an indicator that it is well insulated. Most roofs here are built for snow load. But, on the major storms it is good to remove some weight! Other than that I kinda like the snow look!
 

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Snow & Ice

I think the attic has enough insulation. The problem is the first 2-3 feet from the overhang up the metal roof. That is where the ice build up is. Is there anything I can do that can eliminate this problem without a major project? I do still want to do something with the pitch, but, not until I have thoroughly researched the project and it's cost.

Can I use the heat wires on a metal roof? I'll be perfectly honest with you- I have found myself on a ladder at 10 pm or later knocking ice off the roof- I don't enjoy that. Not to mention the damage that has been done to it with the hammer/shovel. The last two summers we have had to take the time to repair damages caused by the guys that shoveled the roof for me twice.
What could be causing the ice buildup on the edges?
 

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You are going to have to wait for the pro's on that one! :Thumbs: ! But, I will stay tuned to learn myself! Good Luck!!
 

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LG2720 said:
I just bought a ranch house (29'x46') with a 3/12 metal roof with a 16" overhang. I need some professional advice - the pros and cons of trying to change the style of the house to a Cape.

I have recently completed a job similar to what you may be looking for. My team tore off the exsisting roof, trusses and all, then added an engineered post and beam system to support a Truss Joist floor system. Of course there was a fair amount of demolition involved on the main floor to carry point loads into the basement and to excavate and pour reinforced pads for the posts. All that was left was to frame up the second story walls and set the cape cod roof trusses.

If you can find a competent and efficient contractor to tackle this project, you will be surprised at how quick and at how clean the whole process is. In my case, the customer went to his cottage for a week and came back to find his newish cape cod shingled and tyveked, windows in ready for siding, electrical, plumbing, drywall etc.

Shop around with your local contractors and have them submit itemized quotes INCLUDING a completion date.
It is an easy and rewarding project if you do your homework AND find a competent contractor.
Good luck!
Paulsan
 

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I'm an owner of a ranch style house and have a lot of sprawl and roof issues right now. I've been getting a lot of different books on renovation of ranches from my public library.

One I would recommend is:

Updating Classic America Ranches by M. Caren Connolly and Louis Wasserman

It has a lot of design ideas, great looking houses, and simple ideas on what you can make your place look like. It is not technical; but you may get some other ideas along with the current one you have.
 

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Thanks- I'll take a look at it. I'm up to my eyeballs in magazines and books right now doing a bathroom renovation, puttting in french doors in the dining room and replacing two windows in a spare bedroom.

I was just saying this evening how amazing it is that 5 people lived in this house (my family home) and now I feel cramped in it by myself.
 

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You could habve a 90 mil polyurea roof covering spray applied. It would creat an impenetrable roof covering fopr all practical purposes, and would not allow any ice damming to infiltrate the building envelope. It is a two part spray applied membrane with higher physical properties than any single ply on the market.

Could come in copper or aluminum for your roofing projects. Other colors available upon request.

As far as space, well, hire a good carpenter and architect to design your system. I do not build much as I am a do not let the water in specialist. LOL :Thumbs:
 

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Sure they do...that is why we are offering copper ar aluminum polyurea membranes, I will bring you a sample...you wont beleive your eyes. You wear swear it is plated with liquid copper. (or aluminum) This stuff looks GOOOD!
 

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Aaron- what does something like that cost? The aluminum is original and has some rust spots on it - it is currently green in color (not my favorite).
 

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Aluminum doesn't rust, it corrodes and the corrosion is a white powder.
 

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I can generally install for around 2.50-3.00 a square foot cost to you. 48 mil membrane.
 

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My mistake - it is galvanized steel. Any ideas for that? It was primed then painted. That definitely looks like rust in spots where the primer & paint wore off.
 

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I know I wouldn't be happy with a spray applied roof on my house's sloped roof. Spray applied roofs look commercial, since that's what they are intended for. That's just my opinion.

Will it be water tight? Without a doubt. Probably better than shingles.
 
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