Wow, permits are required to install dors in Florida? Replacement doors, or exactly what?

 

Wow, permits are required to install dors in Florida? Replacement doors, or exactly what?

Yes, they are a structural element, they have to have a Florida Product approval code and be inspected.

 

Right now I sell and install doors and I have a specialy license in the 2 counties I cover. I ask the customers if they want me to pull the permits, 90% of the time they say they will pull the permits. 80% of those times the customer has not pulled the permit. I still install the door, but lately I have been worried about getting caught and whos responsibility it falls on. So if a inspecter pulled up who would be the one stuck paying the fine. Also what typically happens in this situation? Keep in mind I am licensed. How much are the fines typically.

You as the contractor are Required to pull the Permit, it is illegal as a licensed contractor to work under a Homeowners permit, unless you are a direct employee.

Where did you get your license?

You as the contractor are assumed to be the profesional and know what you are doing, you are the one who would be responsible for paying the fines.

Fines are usually triple the cost of the permit, but since the economy has gone into the crapper, many Cities have added a lot of other fees and raised permit costs.

 

You as the contractor are Required to pull the Permit, it is illegal as a licensed contractor to work under a Homeowners permit, unless you are a direct employee.

Where did you get your license?

You as the contractor are assumed to be the profesional and know what you are doing, you are the one who would be responsible for paying the fines.

Fines are usually triple the cost of the permit, but since the economy has gone into the crapper, many Cities have added a lot of other fees and raised permit costs.

From the counties? Why?

 

Installing doors is probably a "specialty trade" in FL. No "contractors license" is needed. Only a business license.

Here homeowners can pull permits for specialty trades, but they must list them in the permit application. I usually have to fax over a copy of my license when they do.

 

Installing doors is probably a "specialty trade" in FL. No "contractors license" is needed. Only a business license.

Here homeowners can pull permits for specialty trades, but they must list them in the permit application. I usually have to fax over a copy of my license when they do.

Wrong, it requires a trade license.

If it is an interior door, there is a specialty carpentry license for that, but you still have to take a competency test to get the license.

 

Wow, a competency test for finish carpentry. You guys are on the ball down there.

 

here in Pinellas County, FL you have to have a license to do anything :clap:

The licensing board has people who drive around to sites and issues fines to the homeowner/builder and the people working for anybody caught working without a license, unless you are on the payroll for a licensed contractor.

 

If a permit is required, then you as a contractor shouldnt even be asking the homeowner if they want a permit. You should pull it automaticaly- its the law!

 

It sounds impressive - I think we have something like 23 or 24 different licenses here in Pinellas - (California has around 46!) but like anything political, it's mainly about the money. The more licenses required, the more money raked in.

You should see just the extra TIF charges. (Impact fees). Over.........$22,000 (per 1,000 feet of land use) .......for a drive-in. Last I saw, hotels were charged around $3,000 per room. Then all the water & sewage impact fees... and all the environmental charges on top of that... not to mention the testing fees. It goes on and on.

And pray to God you never have to trim any mangrove trees! That task, alone will cost you months of hassle, and an arm and a leg in coin.

We have a lot of "historical districts", too. What a nightmare when you get into THAT mess.

 

I did take a test for Siding, Windows, and Doors and Business Law. The funny thing is they never went over the legal issues on who has to pull the permit. The test were a prometric exam. The tests are required to get a specialty license.

So to clarify, in Florida I must pull the permit myself?

 

I did take a test for Siding, Windows, and Doors and Business Law. The funny thing is they never went over the legal issues on who has to pull the permit. The test were a prometric exam. The tests are required to get a specialty license.

So to clarify, in Florida I must pull the permit myself?

Yes.

Just to make sure call the building department and tell them you have been having the homeowner pull the permit for you.

Do you have a set of Code books or a Contractors manual?

If not you should get a set and read them.

 

I don't think it's a good idea to call the county and tell them that the home owners have been pulling the permits. The jobs were inspected and passed so why try to stir up some problems for myself. Moving on I will start to pull permits and add it to the price. I also will be calling the county and ask them it is true that the home owner cannot pull the permit if I'm installing.

 

Sorry to dig this back up but it is ok for the homeowner to pull the permit and put my business down as the contractor. The code enforcement official told me the only down side is that to the homeowner it may look as if we are not licensed. She recommended that we give all customers filled out forms for permits to customers who don't want to pay our fee for running the permits. To clarify I have a specialty county license and not a state license.

Another code official from another city said it is ultimately up to the homeowner to verify appropriate permits have been pulled.

This may not be right, but it seems like my local counties and cities are ok with it. Please point out a place on the internet that states you are correct. I also have reread my business law manuals and nowhere do I see what you are stating.

 

I realize this is an old post, but i would always pull the permit so i know it is done.

You cant depend on the home owner, they simply wont to try and save a buck

 

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A permit should allows be pulled doors and windows new construction or replacement

 

Major problem/ If a customer hires a contractor. The contractor should be pulling the permit. They are paying a contactor to do the job and take responsibility for permits and inspections. When a homeowner pulls a permit they are signing a notarized affidavit that they are doing the work 100% or hiring a licensed contractor to do it ( if they hire unlicensed contractors to do the job ofcourse legally they have to take out a payroll and put them on thier workers comp policy) You have stated that you are a licensed specialty contractor which is great. Keep in mind in July of 2023 when the new house bill becomes 100% in effect regarding your trade and any new permitting law changes

 

Well, you are Jonny-in-the-nick-of-time aren't you?

Andy.

 

Installing doors and windows in Florida requires a Florida GC, BC, or RC state-issued license. Your county may have licensing on its own.

 

Since this post has been brought back to life anyways... in MN we are required to pull permits for exterior doors as well.

Side note, some insurance companies will not count a completed project as new if there is no proof of permit and passed inspection. Ive seen many contractors do a roof without a permit, then the homeowner tries to get a discount on insurance for having a new roof and the insurance company denies it without proof a permit was pulled.

 

You are licensed but do not know the answer to this basic question. That itself speaks volumes.