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I don't doubt its a good cleaner as Makita make nice tools. I'm interested in seeing this review as the CT's as a whole are very hard to beat.
Hose storage
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Anti static hoses
full unit filtration certified
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Variable filter cleaning timing

About the only thing it has going against it is price.

Really curious what they thought was better on the Makita. I couldn't find one thing other than price when I looked into them ages ago.
 

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Basically it had to do with the criteria of the testing. The Festool operates with a bag. The other vacuums can run bagless. The writer of the article basically stated that the CT would have been top except for a few small things like that. More of a technicality than anything else.

As for best value, yeah, the Rigid is a great vac for $160. I have the Clearstream filter in mine and always run it with a bag.
 

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The Mak is a rebadged Nilfisk Attix auto clean.

Before Festool switched to a single source for their Vacuums (The company that made the Mini and Midi now make all Festool vacs) they were using the Nilfisk for the Planex when it was NAINA I think it was a rebadged Attix12 called the Srm 45. The Makita is the updated version.
 

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Basically it had to do with the criteria of the testing. The Festool operates with a bag. The other vacuums can run bagless. The writer of the article basically stated that the CT would have been top except for a few small things like that. More of a technicality than anything else.

As for best value, yeah, the Rigid is a great vac for $160. I have the Clearstream filter in mine and always run it with a bag.
Strange as the festool AC vacs can also run bagless.

I think a lot if reviews are done by people who ain't really got a clue about tools. Its like when you see drill reviews where they put one brands entry model against another brands top model.
 

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Strange as the festool AC vacs can also run bagless.

I think a lot if reviews are done by people who ain't really got a clue about tools. Its like when you see drill reviews where they put one brands entry model against another brands top model.
The test didn't use the AC vac, basically it was a test for cleaning up. They vacuumed up piles of concrete dust, and drywall dust, and a pile of sawdust mixed with nails. And if I read the article right this was all done without filter bags.
 

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I got two of thoes vacs one is festool colour other is makita they are made by nilfisk very good vacs
Well thanks for all the interest I don't have a link I read the reviews the old school way the magazine.the review seemed quite thorough And fine home mag loves festool I think this is a good unbiased review and it is not been clouded by the festool brainwash guys.ilove festool but we have have a open mind.festool fans are getting like apple fans.

It's becoming a cult
 

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The test didn't use the AC vac, basically it was a test for cleaning up. They vacuumed up piles of concrete dust, and drywall dust, and a pile of sawdust mixed with nails. And if I read the article right this was all done without filter bags.
That was stupid of them. Still though 99% of people who use vacs use bags. They should have used the AC if the tests were done without bags because vacs without AC are gonna clog up in a matter of seconds without AC.
 

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The Mak is a rebadged Nilfisk Attix auto clean.

Before Festool switched to a single source for their Vacuums (The company that made the Mini and Midi now make all Festool vacs) they were using the Nilfisk for the Planex when it was NAINA I think it was a rebadged Attix12 called the Srm 45. The Makita is the updated version.

Festool now makes the CTs in house.
 

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That was stupid of them. Still though 99% of people who use vacs use bags. They should have used the AC if the tests were done without bags because vacs without AC are gonna clog up in a matter of seconds without AC.
That wasn't the test. The test wasn't stacked in the favor of any manufacturer. It's really not that big of a deal who was awarded best overall and best value. I'm not running out to replace my CT with a Makita after reading it. Neither is anyone else. It's just a magazine article.

I don't know where you are getting the info that 99% of people who use shop vacs use bags. I've seen quite the opposite. Most people I see use vacs don't use bags.
 

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If they tested the Makita as it was shipped, it did not have a HEPA filter in it, that is an option on the Maktia dust extractor. The Makita had the auto clean function, of course it will work better over these test time.

The HEPA filter is standard on all of the Festool CT's except the CT 36 AC, which can be run without a bag and has the auto clean filter function. The comparison shouls have been between like systems.

Best over all value, I bet if they had to run the Rigid in a room for a few hours they wouldn't think that. They are way to loud by todays standards.

I use a bag most all of the time. Water pick up definitely no bag, drywall sanding could go either way and that includes when I use the AC and Planex. I've used the AC with fleece bag and the Planex sanding drywall with no problems. Can't see collecting all this dust only to breath it when you dump the vac. Filter changes will be more often without a bag.

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