bid on a job, lost it....contractor that got it is a "friend" of mine...we trade work back and forth, he's very reputable....job i lost to him, called for 6" of granular bedding material below the invert elevation, and 6" over the top of the pipe...where he was working, was a very sandy/gravelly area....he rented a read 2 deck screen...made all this bedding material out of what he took out of the excavation...a brilliant move to my line of thinking....the bedding material was paid for by the l.f.....he invoiced, they denied, said he didn't haul any in...he goes, i made it onsite, what difference does it make where it came from as long as it met your spec? i totally agree with him, he put a bedding material that met the spec...engineer calls me, says owner doesn't want to pay for it, and asks what my opinion is on it...i asked the engineer, did what he used meet your spec? he had to agree...i feel he's entitled to his money. be interesting to see how this turns out, i'll keep you posted...this material for us is about $18 a ton delivered. near as i can tell, he made it for about $3 with screen rent..i feel, more power to him!!!