How can you have a program to factor in the PITA factors? Access, material handling, disposal fees/handling? Like Grumpy I would much rather rely on things that I know. Price of materials+approximate labor+ dump fee+how much money I want to makeDo any of you use estimating programs if do like your oppions on different ones and the ones you like the best. Thanks
$375 a square is a lot for your area I take it? They say Minnesota pays about the highest for insurance roofing. I know WI next door pays much lower and if you get into Southern MN they pay a lot less too. MN has some of the highest insurance and taxes too. It's a big pro wellfare state.Exactly...
If you think xactimate is way too cheap you just don't know how to use the product thoroughly, haven't attended any classes, or just using the demo.
Ok hire me,. I will basically be your only needed man, with 8 crews, supervisors and all I will take that amount.
Actually at $375/sq. you should be able to pay your laborers around $120-150/sq, so I will take that in a heart beat, advertise you and everything. Thats crazy high imo but if I could get it I would take it
I did a roof a couple weeks ago just across the border in WI. All the neighbors got roofs from the two storms last year and this one got denied. Met with the second adjuster and guess what it got denied again. The adjuster tried telling me the hail was about 6 years old. Determined to get the insured what they had due since of course there was some hail damage had an engineer come out. He said yes some damage but not a lot. The insured's x husband was a very well known lawyer in MN so she threatened them with the fact and they finally gave in and gave her the new roof. They ended up paying around $310 a square with Xactimate and if the roof was in the Twin Cities it would have been $400 a square easy.WI is much lower for insurance work. Truthfully, I find it to be a P.I.T.A to deal with. What they want to pay compared to what it actually costs is surprising. I do see guys doing it for whatever insurance pays and I find that to be unbelieveable. I estimated around 17,000 for a 38 sq, 2 story, 9/10 pitch with 110 feet valley 4 dormers and using I+W and everything else youd expect for a quality job. Insurance came in at 8,600. After a month or two of going over it with them I got them up only to 9,700ish. After dealing with all that the homeowner calls me to say he found someone else who can do it for 8300 and he went with them. Like I say to most people like that, you but you can call me to fix it when they are no longer around. :no:
Dougger - Please do not get me started about property taxes. I live in a very modest home but its in the highest property taxed county in the state. It is quite expensive to do business here but our govenor just wants to keep raising them. I am going up to the Minneapolis area next week to work on a house for a friend. I might consider house looking while I am up there. JK.