[Hawkland]

Hi guys, hopefully the thread title somewhat makes sense. After a few months of my contractor blowing me off I decided to build my deck myself, as I worked construction for several years. Everything was going fine until I reached the rim and the end deck board is only on it by about 3/4". I was thinking about adding (2) 2x4s top and bottom to fir out the rim. Obviously there's not much weight out there and it would only be seen from underneath as it will be covered by composite fascia. Is this acceptable or considered "shoddy" work? Thanks for your help.

 

[RobertCDF]

You can do it, but it would be better just to add another layer or 2 of whatever your rim is, like 2x8, 2x10, or 2x12.

There are a number of ways to prevent this in the future but this is a fix that can be used.

 

[parkers5150]

trim for several reasons...

 

[jhark123]

Next time don't cut your joists and set the rim until you are a few boards away.

 

[WarnerConstInc.]

Next time don't cut your joists and set the rim until you are a few boards away.

I just can't see this as a viable way to build a deck. What do you tell the inspector when they come out for a framing inspection?

I start at the outside and work towards the house. A rip at the house looks better then one at the outside.

 

[John Hyatt]

Next time don't cut your joists and set the rim until you are a few boards away.

I agree that is just plain silly.

There are all sorts of ways to keep that from happening in the first place.

J.

 

[jlsconstruction]

I don't cut my joists till I have 2 deck boards to go. I don't rip any decking, and it's perfectly straight.

 

[WarnerConstInc.]

I don't cut my joists till I have 2 deck boards to go. I don't rip any decking, and it's perfectly straight.

So every deck is cantilevered over a beam and there is no patterns or perimeter boards on any deck you build?

What does the BI have to say about the framing not being complete?

I would have to pay for a re-inspection.

 

[John Hyatt]

And when the Deck size or location dictates ?

Not thinking ahead, or not able to do so , ?

J.

 

[RobertCDF]

Just deck it at a 45 degree angle and then it doesn't matter...

 

[WarnerConstInc.]

Just deck it at a 45 degree angle and then it doesn't matter...

That is one good option.

 

[Metro M & L]

That is one good option.

Always hated that look

 

[PCI]

We don't have framing inspections per se on decks in MN. Footing (hole dug deep enough) and final.

 

[jlsconstruction]

We don't have inspections at all, and obviously if the decking is some sort of pattern that's not the case, but that isn't what we are talking about

 

[Tom M]

I always start at the rim

 

[woodworkbykirk]

i always start with the 2nd board in actually, reason being i can snap a control line all the way down the lenght of the deck. from that i can measure to the posts what my notch has to be around the post.. then i do the outside board... after that i work in to the house

just this morning i got into an argument with a coworker about how to start off decking... he was trying to argue that we should simply butt the first board into the posts.. the thing is on this deck we had a double rim then the post.. had i done this we would have had a 2 1/2" overhang ... he was saying its better.. my rebuttal was that if you overhang it that much not only is it going to snap off but you cant properly nail hte board to keep it from cupping.. he still kept fighting what i was doing.... now mind you this worker doesnt understand technical things.. he just likes doing things the lazy way

 

[m1911]

i always start with the 2nd board in actually, reason being i can snap a control line all the way down the lenght of the deck. from that i can measure to the posts what my notch has to be around the post.. then i do the outside board... after that i work in to the house

just this morning i got into an argument with a coworker about how to start off decking... he was trying to argue that we should simply butt the first board into the posts.. the thing is on this deck we had a double rim then the post.. had i done this we would have had a 2 1/2" overhang ... he was saying its better.. my rebuttal was that if you overhang it that much not only is it going to snap off but you cant properly nail hte board to keep it from cupping.. he still kept fighting what i was doing.... now mind you this worker doesnt understand technical things.. he just likes doing things the lazy way

That describes 90% of the guys I've worked with... :laughing:

 

[Calidecks]

I just can't see this as a viable way to build a deck. What do you tell the inspector when they come out for a framing inspection?

I start at the outside and work towards the house. A rip at the house looks better then one at the outside.

Why do you need a framing inspection on a deck that has everything visible at final? My decks get two inspections footings and final.

As for starting, I do the same, I don't think a rip at the house looks bad, it looks as though it's going through the wall, if your rip is scribed decent.

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[WarnerConstInc.]

Why do you need a framing inspection on a deck that has everything visible at final? My decks get two inspections footings and final.

As for starting, I do the same, I don't think a rip at the house looks bad, it looks as though it's going through the wall, if your rip is scribed decent.

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Because if I don't call for a framing inspection they will red tag me.

Just how it is here. I have built several decks that you couldn't see any framing when it was done.

 

[Quad Racer]

Hi guys, hopefully the thread title somewhat makes sense. After a few months of my contractor blowing me off I decided to build my deck myself, as I worked construction for several years. Everything was going fine until I reached the rim and the end deck board is only on it by about 3/4". I was thinking about adding (2) 2x4s top and bottom to fir out the rim. Obviously there's not much weight out there and it would only be seen from underneath as it will be covered by composite fascia. Is this acceptable or considered "shoddy" work? Thanks for your help.

Yes. Use 2x4 or even 2x2 if you pre-drill to furr out the band. Put the 2x4 vertically on the flat. and mount them every 16" like studs. Sandwiching wood isn't the best way. If you furr out the wood it will be able to breath better. Sandwiching wood outside traps moister and may cause a few different issues.