I do believe they want you to clean with bleach before the mold starts. Like immediately after the water has left. This kills the bacteria that the mold grows on. Once mold is growing, bleach is useless.

Our basement has flooded before, as soon as the water is gone we bleach it and rinse it. Have never had any mold problems.

 

Oh this has been amusing. I have purposely stayed out of this thread after Chuckie started spitting insults as I have butted heads with him many many times in the past on other forums. It's a lost cause fellas. He will never under any circumstances admit defeat or being wrong. His method of articulating his point is strictly belittlement and name calling. Nothing more, nothing less. When unchallenged he offers some pretty useful info from time to time. He is after all, for the most part, a decently intelligent guy. Show a dissenting opinion or offer up an alternative method or point of view however, and the thread turns to sh!t in short order. Dale Carnegie is NOT on his reading list :laughing: That's Chuckie's m.o. for over a decade on the old innerweb here - I doubt it's gonna change

 

He will never under any circumstances admit defeat or being wrong.

Why on earth did you think anyone here was actually interested in converting him to anything?

 

Our basement was filled to the joists, The tile floor i asked about was on the first floor. Its about 2-3 feet lower than the top of the foundation. (Addition to the side of the main house)

 

Our basement was filled to the joists,

The best recommendation I could think of is to stick in 6-8 windows on the left side of that house, then sell it and move somewhere else. But don't put it up for sale in a wet year, there or upstream.

 

Pffft - That'll dry out :whistling

 

I think I tripled my post count on this thread. LOL.

Couldn't stay away after 5 pages,Paul?

Paint Talk would have finished this by page 3.

 

Midwest,
Has the water drained? I thought I might take a ride your way this weekend.
I looked at a house for my brother on the East side a few months ago. I wonder if it got flooded,too.

 

There's an hour of my life I'm never getting back:laughing:

 

Coffer if that was your house, and the bedrooms got swamped, what would your course of action and timeline be.

Bleach and water. Around ten dollars worth. Or you could spend thousands and thousands of dollars just because some jackass on the internet would feel good knowing you did.

 

When Venice floods, do they rip out historic tile floors?

Why not?

Stupidity abounds.

 

Because they flood with salt water. Pretty stupid question there fella. Have yet to see mold like salt. Let's say it's brackish water I think mold still wont like it.

 

So now you're reduced to calling the water in Venice clean?

What do you get out of debasing yourself in this way? What do you think you're winning here, little buddy? I could give a damn, really. I persist for the sake of those who don't post. I want them to see the depraved mindset that holds this industry behind every other. Its full of superstitious, unthinking, proud retards.

Truck stop bathroom, anyone? Anyone? Rip it our every year? Every month? After all, other people's money is no object to some proud jackass on the internet.

 

Where did anyone say the water was clean. It should be clean as it's "filtered by the grout" lol filtered by the grout :laughing:

I'm not sure what truck stops you go to but around here they ain't 3ft deep in river water by the way. Plus good luck getting anything to grow in truckers piss :whistling

Perhaps run this though your crust of bread for second. You have numerous experts telling you the correct fix for this. Carry on thinking like a hack all you like.

 

From Ask A Scientist @ Argonne National Labs

Salt Water and Mold

Name: Alysha C.
Status: student
Age: 11
Location: N/A
Country: N/A
Date: 11/24/2003

Question: I did an experiment with bread mold. I soaked one piece of bread in salt water and one in sugar water after 10 days no mold has grown on the bread with salt water. Why? The only thing I have found is salt reduces the Water Activity level.

Replies: Alysha,

Salt is a powerful dehydrating agent -- in other words, salt pulls water out of cells. Mold spores cannot live and multiply easily in a dehydrated condition. In addition, salt water is an excellent conductor of electricity. As such, it interferes with the life processes that depend on electrical transmissions within and between cells.

Regards,
ProfHoff 751


What else do you want to throw out. I'm ready.

 

Sounds logical and makes sense , but the mold that grew almost immediatly after Sandy struck was rampant . It was probably diluted with sewerage and who knows what else . If it were straight salt water then mold would have been slow to develop . Another good point is that salt water is a good conducter of electricty , therefore any electrical outlets or switches should be replaced . Not so with fresh water . As far as killing the mold most of the pro's were usung microban which was either sprayed on or fogged .Microban kills the mold and its roots and is also an encapsulator which also helps to prevent future mold . At $30 bucks a gallon compared to a few bucks for bleach , most homeowners took a gamble with bleach and payed the price . CHEAP IS EXPENSIVE . :no:

 

So wait...Burger kings in Venice flood with salt...no brackish...no salt water and I am supposed to leave my durock in my river flooded house?? I am soooooo confused now!

 

I think if your house flooded, you should not have burger king.

 

especially if it's in Venice.:laughing:

Look how far off topic this has gone. BK, truck stop bathrooms and Venice. Could a connection be made to Star Trek?

 

so if a burger king, at a truck stop in Venice floods with salt water, The tile can stay. got it.:thumbup:

next coffer will be telling us it would be ok to eat off that floor to afterwords.

screw it. The tile was under water, take the whole dam house down.:thumbsup:

 

I'm no mold remediation specialist but I play one on tv.

So after many threads and internet searches, here's what I can tell you.

Bleach is just ok to remove mold. It will get the surface structure of mold but not get into the "roots" that grow into the material. There are better products which Philcav7 points out.Some of these are:

Mold Stat Plus
Peroxy kling
Silver Bullet AM
Biocide

Some mold treatments are considered pesticides so don't just get anything without checking it's use.

Once you have treated the areas, an encapsulator will help prevent future occurrences.

If you do it yourself then take Eaglei's warning. Do a proper cleanup job. Wear protective clothing, masks and gloves. Missing areas can come back to bite you. It might be worth having a company that specializes in mold removal work through your insurance co. Should anything go wrong, you've got someone to go back to. Just watch out for fly by night guys and internet advice.:laughing:

 

mold remediation...Do a proper cleanup job.

Then do whatever is necessary to prevent it from happening again.

 

Or just throw it all away because it got mud on it.

 

Nah, I think we'll keep ya around. But ya gotta work on proper presentation as so far--yet again--you suck. Please work in some humor, or something of entertainment value. Even vp biteme is worth that appointment due to the humor he brings into situations.

 

You have numerous experts telling you the correct fix for this.

And a more knowledgeable expert is telling you they're wrong. To advise someone to tear out thousands of dollars worth of tile because it got mud on it is stupid beyond belief. The notion that there is something especially septic in a damn fresh water river is equally retarded. It's dirt, for godsake. But facts don't matter to a jackass on a mission to misinform.

 

Once you give some intelligent responses as to why it shouldn't be torn out perhaps we can start to believe some of what you say. But if all you have is burger king and truck stop as reponses no one on here is gonna take you serious.

This last week I was working in a house that water damage. It had 2" of water for a day over it and drywall was taken down, all floor coverings were taken up all the way to the slab and everything sprayed down to kill the mold. They didn't Get to demo for 2 weeks after the flood happend and the water was still between the layers even after all dehumidifiers and fans were running this whole time. I work on a lot of homes that this happens to because the area around me floods a lot and when ever it's a flood of more than a puddle of clean waterand sitting for more than a few hours they pull it out. Of course if a bathtub waste split and dumped 30 gallons of water into the basement and soaked everything it wouldn't require a tear out. There is of course many situations where you sold tear and and not tear out. This OP situation calls for a tear out.

 

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Once you give some intelligent responses as to why it shouldn't be torn out

And now you've simply proven that you're functionally illiterate. I pity your poorly served customers.

BTW: Mold has no ability to perpetuate itself. Dirt doesn't ruin tile. You saying it does over and over again doesn't change the fact that dirt doesn't ruin tile. You keep writing very stupid things. Sadly, you think you're hitting home runs here. You aren't. You're displaying a level of ignorance about tile that pretty much precludes you from ever having anything to do with it. You should strive to get some sort of education. There is plenty out there to be had (and I don't mean from the remediation racket)

 

I notice you keep saying that I say things I have not said. Sure sign of someone losing an arguement if i ever seen one. Perhaps quote these things I'm saying instead of making out I'm saying them. Where have I said dirt can ruin a tile :blink: you can try and spin the argument into a different direction as much as you like to try and dig your self from the hole you dug. You already made your self look like a fool as soon as you opened that trap of yours. Just to remind you we are talking about mold here. Not burger kings, not truck stops, not grout water filters and not how dirty a tile can get from dirt


Also just so your aware flood restoration is done by companies hired by the insurance companies. So kind of hard for me to poorly serve my customers in that field.

How silly for all these people to be worried about mold and the issues it can cause. From now one carpets, subfloors, hardwoods, tile etc etc will all be left down when flooded as the mold expert has spoken lol

 

Completely non-responsive. I get it. Your feelings are hurt. Your defense mechanisms are all you've got now.

I've said all there is to say about this and it's all obvious to anyone able to engage in rational thought. Not that it matters, but I spent quite a few years in State Farm's PSP program, so I probably have a hell of a lot more experience with water damage than you do.

Remember, everyone. Dirt doesn't ruin tile or concrete or grout or thinset or Durock. Even if it's dirt from that awful boogey-man of a river down the street. It's just dirt. It can attack organic material, but it can't do anything to a completely inorganic assembly.

But, hey! Who cares about the obvious truth? It's high school all over again!

Good times.

 

I don't care who says so. If it were my house, that floor, built the way it has been, is coming out. Mold, or the possibility of it, is nothing I want to worry about. My peace of mind is worth more than a residential tile floor, but it has been mildly entertaining to watch this banter.
I noticed you toned down the language ccoffer which I for one appreciate. My 12 year old stepson is autistic, and the use of the word retard as an insult rubs me the wrong way. I guess it's easy on a keyboard, but I can guarantee you wouldn't say it more than once in front of me face to face.

 

My 12 year old stepson is autistic, and the use of the word retard as an insult rubs me the wrong way. I guess it's easy on a keyboard, but I can guarantee you wouldn't say it more than once in front of me face to face

No you can't. Nice diversion, though.

A tell. You people have so many buttons. Anything but the subject. Run away. Run away. Run away from the truth. Run to comfort. The comfort of falsehood.

To encourage people to piss away hard earned money for nothing more substantial than some dumbass, uniformed hunch is sociopathic. You can go back and read the free material I gave you if you'd like to understand this. We both know you won't because your weakness won't allow it.

I'm sickened by the pride so many people have in their own ignorance. Try to steal their ignorance(with truth) and they will hate your guts. Their ignorance is their most prized possession.

Dickless cowards.

 

I will refrain from further comment, but I wish you the best of luck bud.

 

where have you been hiding since '05?

i dont think dirt water would bother my mastic....

 

I notice you keep saying that I say things I have not said.

I notice you lie.

 

Guys this will have to get a lot less personal in a hurry or it will be shut down.

 

Mastic! Now that originally was called "glue". :laughing:


I think only one account is getting personal.