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JUst wanted to get you all's opinion about starting a single truck dump truck business. I am out of work and my particular job field is quickly disappearing. I need a fresh start and I thought buying a small single axle 36K GVWR type truck would be a good niche market to be in. My brother is a landscaper and has already agreed to purchase mulcha nd topsoil from me and that is a start. What do you all recommend as far as getting a customer base started?
 

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seems to me around here the landscapers all ready own their own dump. That is just here though. I dont know. sounds like a big up front price though with family your only support. good luck though.
 

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Gonna have trouble finding work for a single axle. My friend had a trucking business. He has his own screened topsoil, shale and fill and also hauls stone from quarries to his customers. He used to have 3 tri-axles but is down to 1 and is having trouble keeping him busy.

My cousin has a lawncare business and he is so busy that he doesn't know what to do with himself. No matter how bad the economy is, ppl still will not cut their own grass. Buy a lawnmower instead.
 

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We have a 2 ton dump that pretty much just sits. We get some business with our 1 ton but more people just ask to borrow it.
 

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Fish,

Trucks are so difficult to make money with.

There are so many things attached to trucks, Fed DOT regulations, State DOT regulations, CDL license, drug testing, Registrations, Insurance, yearly inspections, roadside inspections, drivers logs, repair logs, the documentation and record keeping for all this. The fines for not doing the paper work and testing are greater than the fines for vehicle problems.

Unless you are in a state where no one checks all these things.

Then you have what you can get paid for running a truck. And all of the ownership & operating costs.

Think long and hard. Go talk to someone in the business in your area.

Good Luck
 
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My trucks are more for conveniance, selling jobs, and creating cash flow. As far as making a living with them, I say it would be tough.

If your truck was set-up in a way that made it more of a niche item, such as a tailgate mounted pea-shooter, 4wd, etc. you may be able to market it in a way that kept you busy all the time.

Trucks cost more to run and people want to pay you less per hour than any other piece of equipment I own. I would definately do my homework if I were you. You may be able to find a way to make it steady and profitable, but it isn't going to be in the traditional sense of hauling and dumping.
 

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Rino nailed it... I've got a buddy that does lawn care / snow removal and its crazy what he grosses with so little equipment investment.... I think he has 3 big zeroturn mowers, a small tractor set up fro spraying and 3 pickup/plows..... I shoulda stayed with cutting grass when I was a kid instead of playing in the dirt!
 

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I know 1 guy that hauls exclusively for one of the local quarries, and he has done well. He recently paid cash for a new KW single axle truck, but he admittedly said that he will retire with that truck.

I would say that the only thing that has gotten him through is that the quarry he runs for pays a 20 ton haul minimum which they charge to the customer. This particular guy is very shrewd and watches his pennies, I would not attempt to make a living running loads with a dump truck. :no:
 

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I'm freinds with 2 trucking comapny owners (both have 5 trucks) and at seperate times when i flip them chit about all the stuff they continually buy/do/upgrade/etc...i say, "i'm buying me a dump truck, i'm tired of busting my azz for pennies" and they both said, "you better buy more than one since it takes 2 to cover the operating expense of the 1" LOL!!

If you get well connected, have the ability to do most all of your own maintenance you can make a living doing it, but having the RIGHT connections is key. ALSO, word of warning...dont go into it being the lowballer, you'll quickly see this profession is worse off margin wise than construction, they're rates have been the same for at least 20yrs, and just recently my buddies were able to up their load charge, and then 2 new guys partnered up their companies and dropped rates back to $65/load again:censored: funniest part, typical lowballers, think their newest truck is a 1980's rig and they're all just rusted out junk that look like crap.

This is one professional, I worked in the trucking industry as an OTR maintenance supervisor and i have no shortage of stories from drives of all trucks/professions, so just heed everybody's warnings...do some SERIOUS research before pulling the trigger, ALOT of things look better from the other side of the fence.
 

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Trucks are so difficult to make money with.

There are so many things attached to trucks, Fed DOT regulations, State DOT regulations, CDL license, drug testing, Registrations, Insurance, yearly inspections, roadside inspections, drivers logs, repair logs, the documentation and record keeping for all this. The fines for not doing the paper work and testing are greater than the fines for vehicle problems.

Unless you are in a state where no one checks all these things.
I have to agree with Denick. Around here things are slow & most of the gravel pits & suppliers all have there own trucks. Never understand how guys make money paying all fees, drivers pay & fuel charging only $68/hr. for a tri -axle.

We have 2- 10 wheelers used primarily for our own work. Don't even bother calling around looking for work from the bigger guys. They can get a Tri for my price or cheaper.

Maybe it's different in your area. Hopefully you can make it work as owner operator. Good luck.
 

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its tuff to make any money with a single axle. i have a tandem and end dump and right now i only need 1 driver both trucks. I am mainly using the trucks for my own jobs. I would look around and see what the rates are and how much business those trucks are doing. They are a money pit tho when times are slow
 

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The way trucks make money is they are all owned by women, blacks and Mexicans....they operate as DBE's. This insures you of work at all times.

The Disadvantaged Business Enterprise (DBE) program is intended to ensure nondiscrimination in the award and administration of DOT-assisted contracts in the Department's highway, transit, airport, and highway safety financial assistance programs. In reality it helps everyone BUT descriminates against the white man.

If you are a minority owned Tri Axle......you are guaranteed work hauling for any state or federal road project, airport, subway and any other project that uses ANY Federal Funds.

My advice.......is if you want to buy a dump truck, have a lady or black person buy it.......if you plan on surviving.
 

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The way trucks make money is they are all owned by women, blacks and Mexicans....they operate as DBE's. This insures you of work at all times.

The Disadvantaged Business Enterprise (DBE) program is intended to ensure nondiscrimination in the award and administration of DOT-assisted contracts in the Department's highway, transit, airport, and highway safety financial assistance programs. In reality it helps everyone BUT descriminates against the white man.

If you are a minority owned Tri Axle......you are guaranteed work hauling for any state or federal road project, airport, subway and any other project that uses ANY Federal Funds.

My advice.......is if you want to buy a dump truck, have a lady or black person buy it.......if you plan on surviving.
That's every business, not just trucking. We're going to corp this yr and my wife will be the new owner just for this reason.
 

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That's every business, not just trucking. We're going to corp this yr and my wife will be the new owner just for this reason.
Good Luck! It's not as easy as it sounds.....if it were, everyone would be doing it.

DBE don't help contractors in building trades nearly as well as truckers. Truckers are guaranteed load hauls for all road projects at a set rate without bidding and bonding....
 

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Good Luck! It's not as easy as it sounds.....if it were, everyone would be doing it.

DBE don't help contractors in building trades nearly as well as truckers. Truckers are guaranteed load hauls for all road projects at a set rate without bidding and bonding....
I'm already well established, we're just doing the full corp for the tax bene's and having the wife listed as the owner will only give more open doors if i chose to pursue them with local federal work and/or grants.....just like adding another tool to your arsenal that could possibly help since you have it, rather than not being able to take advantage of it because you dont....
 

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I do pretty good with my single axle. I've been at it for 38 yrs, truck is paid for, do my own repairs. I get my work by providing A1 service. You need a truck. I'll be on the job when they need it. Not when I get around to it. I charge a prem price and only work for people/Companys that pay on time.
 
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