I'm not really understanding this.. you have pictures of a line drain and kerdi drain(standard)
Either way, your plumber is a hack :thumbup:
Too much of the joists are cut out without proper bracing added. It would've taken him 5 minutes to sweat on a pex adapter instead of a sharkbite, he can't line up supply lines properly, drain line elbow should at least be 2 45 deg fittings imo.
You sure a liscensed plumber did this? I have a feeling it wasn't... If you have to coach a plumber on how to do this type of stuff something is wrong, however; I understand that you would need to go over dimensions etc with a line drain but you have no business hiring that idiot ever again :rockon:

 

Wow what a mess :blink: also am I seeing this wrong but where's the trap?

 

Wow what a mess also am I seeing this wrong but where's the trap?

In that massive gaping hole in the floor joist. I think you're plumber did my house too...same guy that thinks floors are held up by magic and doesn't own a hole-saw.

 

Looks like some one should be in the meat cutting business instead. God damn butchers I tell ya.

 

I just looked at the holes he cut in the plywood.....

I see what you mean with the loop-t-loop on the plumbing, I don't think it would ever be a problem functionally but it seems silly.

Judging by the quality of workmanship, don't waste your time with charge backs, just shoot him and make the world a better place. :thumbsup:

 

That's fuked up, I doubt a real plumber did that. Nothing is right there, c0cked the pipe up out of a coupling haha...

Although againt code here, he could of rolled up with some 22's.

 

Good luck getting that mess to pass inspection. Back charge, anyone?

 

Cut your losses. Tear that st out and start over with a professional. That clown and his boss are obviously clueless.

 

Looking at it from a computer, what a fukin abortion, i could do better piss drunk at 4am, actually i have.

Are you sure thats not your work and just looking for validation?

 

Having the joist cut so much where the trap is makes that joist worthless in addition to all of the other problems the others pointed out

 

OUCH! You didn't actually pay for this, did you? Have the city plumbing inspector and framing inspector check this out. I'm betting they will reject this mess. Now you have some legal authority on your side when you kicked them out of there and have it done right.

 

hope you didnt pay him yet.

rip it all out and call a pro. You'll be sistering some floor joists there. i guess he doesnt know the limitations of cutting and notching.

 

Hmmmm... I wonder if the OP was the plumber... :whistling:

 

Thanks for your respond.

Thanks all of you for your comments!

I am originally from Germany and live now in Canada (Greater Vancouver area.) I am a Tile Setter Master setting tiles for more than 35 Years and I am self employed for 28 years now. In Germany, this guy and his boss too wouldn't even survive the first couple months of his business!

The first thing I learned here in Canada was, that everybody is blaming the others. Nobody makes a mistake! Only the others! I have the feeling, lots of Contractors don't care about their craftsmanship and quality. Maybe they don't know it better.

I had the opportunity to teaching tile setter students for 14 Days. And honestly I was shocked what I saw. They learn at school only the "very old school" and actually nothing about new techniques and new materials. Nobody out there in the field works anymore like this. I mean its good to know the old ways, but it would be better to know the new ways. Wouldn't it? I just hope in the plumbing business it's not the same

Back to the plumbing work or should I better say plumbing mess? The owner of the plumbing company is a friend of my client. :blink: But maybe it is not a good friend, because I wouldn't do such a crap to my friends.

As I ask him how he gets rid of the water which penetrates the tile surface, he answered: "I am installing linear drains every day! I do million dollar homes." Which not automatically means he is doing it right? I think he never ever installed a linear drain before.

Regarding the plumbing work and the cut joists I showed it to my clients and I also told them my concerns. They are OK with this because her friend said so.

So what should I do. Just go ahead or should I call the inspectors without the permission from my clients. I think that's not what they want.

By the way: I am really looking for a GOOD plumber which works closely with me together. I am doing mostly very customized bathrooms and other tile work. To do this I am only use the best materials which are available on the market. For sure it is more expensive however neither I nor my clients have any headache after I am done with my work. I am also fix all issues (e.g. no vapor barrier or no insulation bad drywalling etc. etc.) as soon I realize them during my work. I never cover them up!

So if there is any plumber in the Vancouver area who is interested to work with me together please send me an email.

Working with me together means, everybody is doing his business by his own company and writes his own invoices. However we talk together and discuss things before we start working. I can tell him where i want drain to be installed and what kind of flange I need for the shower system. And also where the fixtures has to be installed to look good after it's tiled. e.g. in the middle of a tile.

I hope my English is not to bad and all of you could understand what I wrote.

 

Note everything in your paperwork, have the client sign off on it, and patch up the butchered joists as best you can.

 

John Whipple is in Vancouver.. maybe he knows a good plumber for you

 

Good friend or not, you are the responsible party when the floor joist sags. The plumbing code should state how much of a notch you can make in framing. If they are still ok with this mess then you've got a choice. Do you want your name on this or not? Personally, I'd walk.

 

John Whipple is in Vancouver.. maybe he knows a good plumber for you

Whipple would have a heart attack if he walked in on that one.

To the op. Does that look like the other showers you have seen in your 35 years experience?

 

Thanks at all for your advises.

Thanks at all for your advises. Now I am knowing what to do.

Does that look like the other showers you have seen in your 35 years experience?

Actually we don't have a "joist system" in Germany. New houses are mostly solid and build from bricks and concrete. Only very old houses (ca. over 80 Years old) are build with a wood framing and clay.

Recently the people build more and more prefab houses. They are mostly build from wood or wood products like plywood etc. But these houses are completely prefabricated. Almost Everything is done when the house on your property arrive. There is no need to install thereafter a toilet bowl or a bath tub.

I am in Canada now for 4 Years and at this time I have seen so many bad work. And yes, this is not the first time I have seen joists cut like this. In my opinion lots oft the electricians aren't better. :sad: I mean in Germany we have some "black sheep's" too, but mostly all work is done at a very high level. Otherwise your company will not survive. The Germans are very meticulous. And if you do a job like this your a dead man.

By the way, I know John. I met him already in his house. We talked a lot about the different linear drains and he showed and explained me everything. I already chose my favorites however in this case "the friend" organized the drain. So, no profit for John. But I am think he will survive.

 

Usually I am the kind of guy that minds my own business even if the other contractor is a hack. But something like this I can NOT ignore. And even though you aren't the plumber, invariably you'll be tearing out your tile when the HO figures out that the drain isn't working properly.

 

Matt, you crack me up!:laughing:

 

John should take that giant pipe wrench of his and smack that plumber upside the head.

 

Greetings, You have red arrows int the picture, that can't be the directon of the water flow?

 

Sure it is! Look here:

Sure it is. :laughing:

Look here. It connects to a vent in the wall and from there it comes back.

 

Greetings, You have red arrows int the picture, that can't be the directon of the water flow?

No he has an affliction towards drawing on his pipes. :laughing:

 

Lol this mess still in one piece? If you let that plumber get away with leaving that mess the way it is then you made a mistake. I have seen hacks do better work. Also I would have isntalled 2" waste after the shower to handle the flow rates of shower and basin. I would be disgusted if a plumber left a job leaving it looking like that.