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Dlb.. top plate / dlb. joist?

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Any reason why the wall has a double top plate and sits directly on a double joist? Location is 2nd floor, roof trusses, no wall underneath on first floor.
Port of the wall was removed to expand the bathroom.
The floor was opened to move the plumbing.

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Because when the house was built, the lumberyard dropped off 2 lifts of pre-cut 8' s as per the builders "super" requested?
All of the walls that we build on new homes get two top plates, bearing or not.
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The dble top I think is common

I've only seen sistered joists when they're adjacent to a large opening such as stairway or the actual joists are undersized.
Warren said:
All of the walls that we build on new homes get two top plates, bearing or not.
Why is that, Warren?

Not being a smart a$$, serious question.

I've been out of production framing for a while.
Why is that, Warren?

Not being a smart a$$, serious question.

I've been out of production framing for a while.
Because precut studs are only cut to 92 5/8", 104 5/8", and 116 5/8"

It also allows you to tie all the walls together via an overlap at all corners and partitions.
The dbl top plate didn't surprise me until I saw the dlb joist. We'll see what the BI has to say about it Tuesday.
Sometimes floor joists can be 16" o.c. with every third joist doubled. Quite common around here actually.
Warren said:
Because precut studs are only cut to 92 5/8", 104 5/8", and 116 5/8"

It also allows you to tie all the walls together via an overlap at all corners and partitions.
Kinda what I thought, even on interior walls.

Thanks.
tenon0774 said:
Kinda what I thought, even on interior walls. Thanks.
Unless you want to use different size studs for interior walls.
It's also common to put a double joist under parallel walls.
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The dbl top plate didn't surprise me until I saw the dlb joist. We'll see what the BI has to say about it Tuesday.
He'll say nothing wrong with over building or maybe there was a structural reason like every other dbl jiost at a tub or something that can't be seen or maybe even the framers brain farted and put a dbl'r in.

.... let us know what expression he has on face if you try to connect the dots between having a dbl top plate and dbl joist under. :whistling That has potential to be pricelss
Warren said:
All of the walls that we build on new homes get two top plates, bearing or not.
I do the same.

Where are the stairs as far as layout in the house?
I'm not a framer but I always thought that was the proper way to do it- double top plates to tie intersecting and overlapping walls and double joist under any parallel partition wall.
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Also that way if you're framing a two story the 2nd story floor joists don't have to fall over where as stud is aligned under the top plate.
I would say it is a standard framing detail for us. only walls that get single top plates are non load bearing basement walls.
Also that way if you're framing a two story the 2nd story floor joists don't have to fall over where as stud is aligned under the top plate.
Your not too friendly with the HVAC or plumber are you? :laughing:
Your not too friendly with the HVAC or plumber are you? :laughing:
Okay, so say I have 2x6 wall framing at 24" o.c. and 2x12 floor joist framing @ 16" o.c. . How are you planning on aligning those so you're more friendly than me to the the HVAC or the plumber?

If it works out that they do align, great. If not there's plenty of ways for both of those trades to work around to the bays that are more open.
Have the engineer or designer fix his problem.

It's piss poor planning from these guys that creates these issues, then the mechanical guy comes in with his plans and then they don't match, it's a **** show.

But I have seen lots of guys who don't know do exactly as you wrote, mechanicals no longer work smoothly, either tighten up your floor joists or spread out your wall framing
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BI didn't give it a 2nd look. Framing inspection passed.
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