Never heard of it used consistently. Bottom plate maybe?

 

I have no clue.

 

A kicker is a supplementary brace, typically installed at at angle, that lends support to a wall or pipe or something that would be wobbly without it.

I see guys in commercial tenant improvements build partition type walls using metal studs. sometimes if you lean on these walls they will move, so they install a metal stud that is pinned to the deck above and take the stud and at a 45 degree angle, it connects to the top plate of the wall, they do this here and there to stiffen up the walls...

 

The only kicker term I know is a piece of lumber at the bottom of a stair stringer that ties them together and prevents them from "kicking out" or maybe named because of it's location.

 

Kicker
A structural member used to brace a joist or beam usually at an angle.



I believe it's a regional term.

 

I'm with Mickey on the kicker plate, but we also put kickers on low forms.
Slab, curb....It's generally a relatively short temporary brace.
Metal guys use it like LB said too.
Then o' course there's your ***** kicker.....

OOps, maybe you're talking about a "jack" stud?
Where is Moto?

 

Much like Jensen, Ive known kickers as a stud or 4x that braces a beam, usually under the roof deck. I know its a term used in form work, but I only know that through reading. I wasnt sure it was regional ( in regards to framing), though I have only heard it used locally. I was curious if others used the term, looks like only those in the west coast? Never knew of it used in metal walls, but I do not know anything about commercial work.

 

The term kicker is known in my area as a brace, usually on an end joist to reinforce or stabilize.

 

Just wondering if "youse guys" is a regional thing too?

 

In the souf(south) we say ya'll(you all)arty:

 

I've always known a kicker to be a wall brace (or really any brace) but we always call them braces until we start kickin them. Sometimes the other guys call the 2x nailed to the floor the kicker. (the 2x that the walls braces are nailed to)

 

What we call the kicker is 2X4's nailed onto the rimmer to stop the wall pushing out as we stand them.

 

I had always used the term kicker as the riser portion of a step - i.e. go cut the treads and kickers.

 

Must mean the treads aren't deep enough:whistling

Kickers are the 2x4's nailed to the roof to help maintain footing and stop you in case you begin to slide.

Those are cleats, same purpose as any other kind of cleats.

Actually, "stickers" is the term for strips of wood laid between green lumber to allow air movement while drying, either in air or a kiln.
Interesting how terminology changes across the country.

Boatwrights have "stickers" too.
They use theirs to make templates and patterns.
Making those odd shaped pieces for cabinets and such to fit the inside of the hull, they can really "stick it".:thumbup:

 

oops

 

In Oregon it's when the State sends out a refund when funds exceeded what was needed, we don't get them often but when we do it's called a kicker.

And yes we get one this year :thumbup:

 

In WI we use the term kicker jsut like LB siad. It is a brace usually on an angle to siffin up or hold a wall or truss in place that would otherwise wobble around if you touch it.

 

The term here is as above...a kicker is a brace, usually in a roof, or rafter, and a lot of guys call temp braces "kickers", since you "kick" them in to level or plumb a jamb or wall, etc.

 

Ahhh....that makes alot of sense. I bet the word made its way out here to the west and morphed into just an angled brace, that was permanent.

The "youse" thing was just a joke when I typed it:jester:

 

Kickers are the 2x4's nailed to the roof to help maintain footing and stop you in case you begin to slide. I've heard a few people call stickers kickers. Stickers are boards laid down under a bunk of lumber or plywood to keep the wood elevated so the forks can be retracted.

 

Kickers are the 2x4's nailed to the roof to help maintain footing and stop you in case you begin to slide.

We call those, "toe kicks."

 

Actually, "stickers" is the term for strips of wood laid between green lumber to allow air movement while drying, either in air or a kiln.

Dunnage are the boards placed under a pile for forklift access.

Interesting how terminology changes across the country.

 

I could see how the 2 would be confused. I've never heard the term dunnage before, I think I just might use it, it'll make me sound smart...

 

Materials placed adjacent to or beneath stacked goods to secure them in place or to allow for ventilation during transport or storage.
www.usaid.gov/our_work/humanitarian_assistance/ffp/crg/annex-1.htm

Long ago, like when I turned 21, I couldn't wait to drive a big rig, cross country, and see America. I hauled heavy equipment, pipe, and containers, and the 4X4 and larger squared timbers you see placed under loads are called dunnage. Now days, the DOT will fine the profit from you for failure to secure these timbers under a trailer...next time you see a semi with a flat bed, see where he keeps the wood.

 

The term kicker is used pretty loosely here, but mostly as a temporary or supplemental brace.

 

Pavola's statement would apply in my area. When I framed i would use the word "kicker" 50 times a day for various things much the same way some guys use the word "jacks".

 

We use kickers at a right angle to a wall brace to bring the wall in for plumb and line.

 

We use the term daily..

We use it in the sense of shooting the stud(Kicker) to the bar joist and screwing the stud(Kicker) to the top track of the wall, usually on a angle. Used anytime we build walls that don't run to the decking, like in most offices that only go 10'-12' high. Usually in those situations we only have two fire rated walls that do run to the decking anyway.

 

I can think of a few uses
-Braces, like Joasis said
-Also, when you can't kick the brace enough to get the wall plumb, you nail a chunk of 2X4 to the brace, so that it levers off of something, and gives you a big mechanical advantage- I've seen that called a kicker.
- Toe boards
- A permanent 45 degree brace under a cantilever.

 

What's a jack?

 

It's pretty loose but.. sill jacks, header jacks, rafter jacks, valley jacks. I could probably think of a few more.

 

A jack holds something up.
It starts from the sill,sole,shoe, etc. plate; but doesn't reach the top plate, ridge, etc.
A cripple starts from the top plate, ridge, etc. and doesn't extend to the bottom--sole, sill,etc.
A jack rafter goes up to a hip, a cripple rafter runs from a ridge to a valley.

 

For me trimmers are the joist or rafters that hold up the headers.
A joist/rafter and a "trimmer", for doubles.
A joist/rafter and two trimmers for a triple.
Sometimes for an extra member that only serves to reduce the size of the opening.

So one more question. Are these trimmers full span??

I would say the Header "hangs" from the full span doubles or triples since I would probably have to put a hanger there.

 

So one more question. Are these trimmers full span??
I would say the Header "hangs" from the full span doubles or triples since I would probably have to put a hanger there.

Yes the "trimmers" are the doubles or triples.
Jack studs only got to be trimmers when they moved to Ca. I think:laughing:
Think about it,any kind of jack is used to hold things up.
And a cripple doesn't have both feet on the ground.
It was all easier when everyone learned from "Audels".:thumbsup: