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went to look at a deck that needs new stairs today. passed it along to my friend but i'll be helping him do it. they were already replaced once by her brother in law who was probably drunk when he did them as they just scream lawsuit.

anyway, there's 4 risers. the bottom two are 2x10, and the top 2 are 2x12. has anyone else ever seen this before? they are the weirdest looking stairs i've ever seen. anytime i build stairs i use the 5/4 deck boards. i've never seen a 2x10 used like that. and the two sizes? what is going on.
 

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What difference does it make what was there if your going to replace them anyways? Yo can make your own treads from 2x12's or from 5/4. It's your rise you should be worried about.
 

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What difference does it make what was there if your going to replace them anyways? Yo can make your own treads from 2x12's or from 5/4. It's your rise you should be worried about.
i was baffled by the 2x10's at the bottom and then the 2x12's for the top 2 treads...
 

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Look at the ends of the treads. Are they burned from being cut by a blade that hasn't been changed since Clinton was Prez? Or that's what you get when you pay in advance with beer.
 

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thats what i figured. the 2x's look like crap to begin with. she wants to re-use them though which sucks. whatever the customer wants though.
That's where you are wrong. You are the professional and YOU tell the HO how it's done properly and that's how you do it.

Otherwise you just propagate the hackery.

If you DO hack work, you are a hack.
 

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That's where you are wrong. You are the professional and YOU tell the HO how it's done properly and that's how you do it.

Otherwise you just propagate the hackery.

If you DO hack work, you are a hack.
point taken, but if she wants it like that she wants it like that. the decking is 2x6, and ideally i'd like to use 2x6 to match it but she doesnt want to :rolleyes:
 

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I'm trying to figure this out, what's the overhang on the risers? What was the hieght of the risers? Why did you pass it off to a friend?​
Seems like a good job for one person.
 

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I don't get why you would even consider using cobbled together pieces?


Whats (2)8' 2x12's cost?

Personally I use rows of 2x6 radius edge For 11" treads. (I hate 5/4)

4 rises would cost like $30

If a homeowner can't afford that, run away
 

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I'm trying to figure this out, what's the overhang on the risers? What was the hieght of the risers? Why did you pass it off to a friend?​
Seems like a good job for one person.
time restraints. i wasnt going to fully commit to it because i really dont know when i'll be able to do them, and i dont want to be harassed about it. i'll probably end up doing them with my friend either way.

my friend that i passed it on to has helped me. brought over his staging and helped me finish shingling a gable end on a house for absolutely no pay just lunch. helped me trim out a room in my house, paint my living room kitchen, the list goes on. when i get work and i'm busy i usually just pass it on to him. so its not like i was just passing on work because i didnt want to do it. he's running his own business and is extremely slow right now, i've got a new job thats good and stable so the carpentry stuff i get on the side i pass it on to him and if i'm available i work with him doing it.
 

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I don't get why you would even consider using cobbled together pieces?


Whats (2)8' 2x12's cost?

Personally I use rows of 2x6 radius edge For 11" treads. (I hate 5/4)

4 rises would cost like $30

If a homeowner can't afford that, run away
hey i'm not arguin with ya, i'd much rather that. but i did pass it on to my friend, so its between him and her now. if i am able to help him with it then i will.
 

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There's no reason to use 2x10 and 2x12....

If she needs the stairs redone and wants to reuse the material, what exactly is wrong?

I'd say buy three 2x12s long enough to re-cut the stringers and use the cut-offs as treads....if nothing else, replace the 2x10 treads with 2x12.....(7 and 11)

I think I'm just having trouble understanding:party:
 

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Gotcha....I know how it is. I work mostly by myself.Hard to schedule jobs and I dish whatever I can't handle on to friends of mine when I can. 95% I can handle. I usually ask client how soon they need it done. Most of the time it's no rush and it will fit into my schedule. Or not? Oh well.:shifty:

Must be some odd dimensions with those stairs....Good luck!:thumbsup:
 

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point taken, but if she wants it like that she wants it like that. the decking is 2x6, and ideally i'd like to use 2x6 to match it but she doesnt want to :rolleyes:
So if a HO tells an electrician to use 14ga wire where 10ga is needed
he should just do it because "thats what she wants?"
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freemason, you've got another job (non-contracting) so I'm assuming your buddy has the license and insurance and bond to do carpentry work as a business. His liability is once he touches the staircase, he can be sued if someone hurts themselves because the stairs are not built to code.
The customer is NOT ALWAYS right. You've got to understand that. They don't get to call all the shots. You and your buddy need to read the above replies and build the stairs CORRECTLY. Changing the depth of a tread in the middle of a staircase is a fall waiting to happen.

No one here cares if the HO wants to reuse the materials. You posted a thread on a professional contractor's forum - the replies you've gotten are from professional contractors.

Don't attempt to defend your position by saying "that's what the HO wants." IT DOESN'T MATTER. What matters is when you take on a project, you build it correctly, safely and to any applicable code in your area. Period.

You seem to enjoy choosing the losing end of an argument here on ct. You started a thread w/ a "wtf" moment. Everyone else agrees - 2x12 and 2x10 treads on the same staircase is definitely "wtf." When you rebuild the staircase, DO IT RIGHT.

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