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We finished a bathroom remodel about a week ago. The clients were very concerned about their exotic birds during the process. Fumes are hard on these creatures. We used only latex paints and had windows open in the bathroom and several closed doors between us and the birds. We made it through the job just fine. I just found out some distressing news. My client (new owners of this house) used the oven for thanksgiving day meal. The previous owner had placed a teflon drip pan in the bottom of the oven. My clients did not know this. It produced no noticeable smell but the fumes killed all the exotic birds in less than 4 hours.

If any of you have clients with birds, be careful.:sad:
 

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We finished a bathroom remodel about a week ago. The clients were very concerned about their exotic birds during the process. Fumes are hard on these creatures. We used only latex paints and had windows open in the bathroom and several closed doors between us and the birds. We made it through the job just fine. I just found out some distressing news. My client (new owners of this house) used the oven for thanksgiving day meal. The previous owner had placed a teflon drip pan in the bottom of the oven. My clients did not know this. It produced no noticeable smell but the fumes killed all the exotic birds in less than 4 hours.

If any of you have clients with birds, be careful.:sad:
This almost seems too out there to be true....
 

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I did not see the dead birds but they are definitely gone and my client is very upset that she killed them.
 

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I built an addition about 6 years ago for a couple who have birds. Same type of deal. Stained the windows outside before installing during framing, waterborne poly on the trim once installed with the birds moved to a different level in the house, latex paint, and on. The homeowners were extremely careful about everything they did, i.e. specially formulated home cooked meals for them, cooking spray sprayed on a pan was done in the garage, etc.. The respiration rate of birds is however many times (can't remember the exact number) what ours is plus the smaller lung area and consequently birds are adversely affected far quicker by pollutants.
 

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We did a bsmt reno this summer and went to untold lenghts to use NO toxic materials at all, as the HO had a parrot.

The paint used was Aura. It is totally safe around birds.
 

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From DuPont's own website:

Some people keep their pet birds in the kitchen. It's a natural gathering place for family, friends and pets. But bird owners should be aware that there are potential dangers in the kitchen, too. Cooking fumes, smoke and odors that have little or no effect on people can seriously sicken and even kill some pet birds, often quite quickly. Dr. Karen Rosenthal, DVM offers tips to keep pet birds safe.

1. Always keep your pet bird out of the kitchen while cooking.
Many veterinarians urge pet owners to keep their birds in a room other than the kitchen. But if the kitchen is your bird's favorite place, always move it to another room before cooking.

2. Never leave heated cookware unattended.
Sadly, bird fatalities can result when both birds and cooking pots or pans are left unattended in the kitchen - even for just a few minutes. Cooking fumes from any type of unattended or overheated cookware, not just non-stick, can damage a bird's lungs with alarming speed. This is why you should always move your birds out of the kitchen before cooking.

3. Never preheat your cookware on high heat.
If accidentally overheated, non-stick cookware can emit fumes that may be harmful to birds, as can any type of cookware preheated with cooking oil, fats, margarine and butter. This is why you should always move your birds out of the kitchen before cooking.

4. Always turn on the exhaust fan or open a window before cooking.
It's important to make sure that your kitchen is properly ventilated. In addition to cooking fumes, birds are highly sensitive to a variety of other fumes such as: aerosol sprays, non-stick sprays, perfumes, any source of smoke, pesticide sprays, glue, paints, self-cleaning ovens and cooking gas.
 

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Parakeets must be exempt.
Grandma had one lived to be
15, another 10.
They both lived in her kitchen.
(I mostly did too....)
 
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