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Curbless shower question

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Hello all, I'm getting back into building after 5 years away from the trades. I have never built a curb less walk in shower before and this is what the customer wants. Can anyone point me in the right direction as to how to do this? I've done several mud jobs but don't want to tackle this without advice! Thanks in advance.
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A lot more info needed-----wood frame construction or slab?

Budget?

Do you have a top notch tile/bath specialist available?

Done wrong you could be in for a huge liability issue----

Post a picture or drawing -----Google 'linear drains'
Thank you for the reply. I should have mentioned its a first floor bathroom, the house is framed only, full basement, engineered floor joists. I will post some pics later. Not too enthused about doing this one.
There's tons of info on the web for linear shower drains. You can get a good idea about installations by looking at the manufacturers websites, such as http://quickdrainusa.com/
Not too enthused about doing this one.
What do you mean? It sounds like a fun job, are you sure you're ready for it after being away from the trades for five years?Is the basement unfinished? Should make it easy, you have access down below in case you need to drop the floor joists to give you that curbless shower.
Leaning towards Schluter-KERDI-LINE Have any of you used these products?
I've done a few in slabs. I poured the first two and left the shower area out, then poured it later. The next one, I cut out a piece of concrete and started over.

What are your plans regarding the floor joists? Will you support them below and head them off, or raise the entire floor in the bathroom?

You can use the membrane and pre-slope if you like, then you won't need a linear drain or Schlueter.
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I like the Noble lineal drains. They have the easiest grate adjustment and a great system for tying in the waterproofing membrane.

Most put the drain at a wall. The pitch to the drain must be 1/4" per foot.

There are pre-slope pans available.

Tom

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Well it doesn't seem like I'll be dropping joists unfortunately EVERY duct and pipe and things I've never even seen before are tucked neatly up in between the joists! Looks like I'll have to raise the floor.

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Even more of a reason to check out the Quickdrain system, with their "QuickSlope" you won't have to build the floor up so much.
http://www.quickdrainusa.com/installation.php

On another note: why didn't the sprayfoamer fill up those cavities? That application looks too skimpy.
Thanks everyone for the good suggestions!

Rusty that application is only 2" thick and will have regular fiberglass insulation bats over it. Not sure why they are doing that but that foam is very dense and solid.
Schluter, Wedi, and Noble all make single slope pans.

If the shower is for a wheelchair, a single slope is not a good idea. Hard to keep the chair from pivoting.

Tom
Try it some time. Create a single slope ramp (1/4" per foot) try and get the chair to stay in place while going through the motions of taking a shower.

A pan with the drain in the center is much better.

Tom
Thanks everyone for the good suggestions!

Rusty that application is only 2" thick and will have regular fiberglass insulation bats over it. Not sure why they are doing that but that foam is very dense and solid.
...because the spray foam is insanely expensive! They've sealed the air infiltration, and will put fiberglass batts in, completely normal around here...
As another thought, are you sure they want tile? We've done several curbless showers in cultured marble, and the customers have been insanely satisfied with them even years later...are they wanting it curbless for a reason (ADA/elderly?)? If so, tile can be difficult to keep clean for someone like that too. Depending on budget as well, I find the marble to be less expensive...just another thought I don't see elsewhere in this post :)
...because the spray foam is insanely expensive! They've sealed the air infiltration, and will put fiberglass batts in, completely normal around here...
http://www.ntcinsulation.com/the-insulation-lab/flash-and-batt-risky-in-cold-climates
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