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What is/are the best tolls to use to cutting ceiling and notch floor joists to run wire from one side of the wall to another side?
Thank you in advance.
Louis
Thank you in advance.
Louis
reveivl said:I just did that when putting in a new bthrm fan. I cut rectangular pieces out of the ceiling between every second joist (use a studfinder) with the tool that drywallers use for cutting elec. boxes out (Zipquick, or the like). Save the pieces. Reach in with a drill and drill your holes for the wire at the center of the joists. You risk drilling into existing wires so you might want to put an access every joist, that way you can see both sides. Pull your wire. Slide a piece of plywood into the hole and screw it down over the opening, then screw the drywall piece back into place. Tape, mud, sand. Now you're an electrician and a drywaller.
Don't nail plates allow for less than 1 1/4",or does this only apply to piping.jproffer said:It's against code to "notch" floor joists or studs for 120/240V wiring. The wire has to be 1 1/4" away from either side, which on a 2x4 that's pretty much in the center. At any rate, you can't notch for a wire and cover it with sheetrock, if that's what you're asking.
Sure, but the IRC spanning lumber notching rules are so strict, you wouldn't dare drill closer than 2" to the edge of a joist without your attorney standing by. Remember, the NEC only required holes to be at least 1-1/4" away from the edge of lumber to not need a nail plate. However, the IRC requires that joists be drilled at least 2" away from the edge to count as a "bored hole" and not a "notch".bergenbldr said:Don't nail plates allow for less than 1 1/4",or does this only apply to piping.
Does the 2" rule apply to vertical lumber,a 2x4 stud could only not drilled or it would count as a notch .mdshunk said:Sure, but the IRC spanning lumber notching rules are so strict, you wouldn't dare drill closer than 2" to the edge of a joist without your attorney standing by. Remember, the NEC only required holes to be at least 1-1/4" away from the edge of lumber to not need a nail plate. However, the IRC requires that joists be drilled at least 2" away from the edge to count as a "bored hole" and not a "notch".
No. The 2" rule is for joists. The IRC permits holes within 5/8" to the edge of a stud to still count as a hole and not a notch. If you drilled that cose for a wire, you'd have an NEC violation unless you nailed on a nail plate. The NEC requires at least 1-1/4" back for all lumber. The IRC requires 2" for joists and 5/8" for studs. Are we having fun yet?bergenbldr said:Does the 2" rule apply to vertical lumber,a 2x4 stud could only not drilled or it would count as a notch .
bob said:I use the cut out. screw it back to the 2x with a couple of drywall screws and tape. if your in a hurry use 20 min. mud.
30 min. to finish including paint is great my hats off to you
Long as you don't complain next time when they call the 'second guy' first!! :cheesygrimdshunk said:On the odd occasion where I need to make a hole that needs patched, I just point to it and tell the homeowner, "you'll have to get someone to patch that for you". That is much quicker than 30 minutes for me. :cheesygri
I've waked away from jobs like that. Customer says "We had a room addition put in. The drywall's all done, but we thought that it should have some lights a receptacles now." I say, "no thanks." What are people thinking sometimes? Or, people are rennovating an old house and wait until they've rewallpaperd the whole place and then decide to have it rewired. GRRRR....Tom R said:Long as you don't complain next time when they call the 'second guy' first!! :cheesygri
Yeah, - - strangely enough, - - it does seem to happen a lot, - - but that's when the word 'extra' comes in handy. :cheesygrimdshunk said:I've waked away from jobs like that. Customer says "We had a room addition put in. The drywall's all done, but we thought that it should have some lights a receptacles now." I say, "no thanks." What are people thinking sometimes? Or, people are rennovating an old house and wait until they've rewallpaperd the whole place and then decide to have it rewired. GRRRR....