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Gluttony is a sin. Sorry, I don't make the rules. I'm not saying that a 200 pound man is a glutton, that would be ridiculous. But I think it's pretty clear that gluttony does lead to diabetes, heart disease, and eternal damnation.
your comments aren't necessarily accurate .
some people are just big. I would certainley be better off some pounds lighter- but then on the other hand----------

had my blood pressure taken at the urologist within the last month.
got the same reaction from the nurse I have got EVERY time I have had my BP checked since it was first checked maybe 30 years ago

Nurse: "wow"
Me : " B.P. pretty good, huh?
Nurse :--- " Good?- it's incredible. I would LOVE to have BP that good"

that has been the conversation for 30 years- I long since stopped paying attention to the numbers because they are always outstanding.

My typical breakfast is whole grains- usually oatmeal, or whole grain pancakes or a scrambled egg on whole wheat toast sandwich. summer time I try to stay hydrated more so it will more typically be yogurt and fruit- typical breakfast well under 600 cal.

Lunch- I haven't been inside a McDonalds in probably 15 years-and that was probably taking the kids for a rest stop while on the road during vacation. typical workday lunch is a 3 bean salad thing with hot peppers,green peppers,onions etc.- sometimes it's a tomato and swiss sandwich on whole wheat- or a brown rice and raisin pudding I make with agave as a mild sweetner or maple syrup----- under 800 calories

supper is mostly cooked veg. lots of brown rice-minimal meat- meat is more typically like a condiment-more a flavoring than an actual ingredient- lot's of greens,spinach,kale, cabbage, I would eat brussel sprouts 3 times a day etc.

but I am a big boy- that is just the way it is

I am aware I hit the genetic lottery with my BP- NONE of my siblings or my parents came close------ but that is just luck on my part. I don't think it makes me virtuous, just lucky-and I certainley don't think it makes anybody with high BP or heart disease morally suspect.

It's mostly luck- but you can kid yourself otherwise.
stephen
 
Gluttony is a sin. Sorry, I don't make the rules. I'm not saying that a 200 pound man is a glutton, that would be ridiculous. But I think it's pretty clear that gluttony does lead to diabetes, heart disease, and eternal damnation.
So is judgement and pride. Last I checked being vane is proud and passing judgement is self explained. Hey, jack, I don't make the rules.

But let's not open this can of worms.
 
What the hell! I wanted to read about ladders not get sent over to a Jenny Craig forum.

I'm Bambamm and I have a problem. I like to eat. I also like to run 15-20 miles a week. I'm also 35 pounds heavier than I should be but I'm in perfect health.

Now, where did I set that damn camo ladder. I always lose it after I set it up.
 
When I was framing all the time I was 230 and had a 34" waist and I am 6' tall. That is not the case now I am 265 with a 38" waist I am trying to lose a few pounds but I am a a stress eater and the last few years I have eaten a lot more than I should
 
Ever notice how many guys who think they are thin-----also thinks it makes them somehow morally superior?

As if topping 200# makes you some kind of sexual deviant pervert, LOL.

256 lbs, yes I am carrying excess weight- on the other hand I ain't one of those nancy boys whining about how hard it is to set up a 40 ft. ladder, or how scared I am to climb it------- or heaven forbid wimpering about where my center of gravity is when I am at the top of it, LOL.

BTW- ran a half marathon 3 years ago on the absolute minimum training possible, I will be running a full marathon after I retire and can properly train for it, and I can regularly bike 30-40 miles all week long.

I will be 51 in august.
gawd- there is nothing more tedious than a skinny guy droning on about the virtues of salad

unless it's one of those yuppy turds who talks about golf 24/7.
stephen
I actually have no issue carrying a 40', nor am I considered skinny, nor did I drone on about the virtues of salad. I simply said that if your fat ass can't be supported by a 225lb rated ladder maybe it's time to order a salad every once in a while. And I also didn't wimper about center of gravity or whatever you said. I said that any ladder is unstable if your waist goes above the top of the ladder. But I guess twisting and lying about what I said was much funnier.
 
your comments aren't necessarily accurate .
some people are just big. I would certainley be better off some pounds lighter- but then on the other hand----------

had my blood pressure taken at the urologist within the last month.
got the same reaction from the nurse I have got EVERY time I have had my BP checked since it was first checked maybe 30 years ago

Nurse: "wow"
Me : " B.P. pretty good, huh?
Nurse :--- " Good?- it's incredible. I would LOVE to have BP that good"

that has been the conversation for 30 years- I long since stopped paying attention to the numbers because they are always outstanding.

My typical breakfast is whole grains- usually oatmeal, or whole grain pancakes or a scrambled egg on whole wheat toast sandwich. summer time I try to stay hydrated more so it will more typically be yogurt and fruit- typical breakfast well under 600 cal.

Lunch- I haven't been inside a McDonalds in probably 15 years-and that was probably taking the kids for a rest stop while on the road during vacation. typical workday lunch is a 3 bean salad thing with hot peppers,green peppers,onions etc.- sometimes it's a tomato and swiss sandwich on whole wheat- or a brown rice and raisin pudding I make with agave as a mild sweetner or maple syrup----- under 800 calories

supper is mostly cooked veg. lots of brown rice-minimal meat- meat is more typically like a condiment-more a flavoring than an actual ingredient- lot's of greens,spinach,kale, cabbage, I would eat brussel sprouts 3 times a day etc.

but I am a big boy- that is just the way it is

I am aware I hit the genetic lottery with my BP- NONE of my siblings or my parents came close------ but that is just luck on my part. I don't think it makes me virtuous, just lucky-and I certainley don't think it makes anybody with high BP or heart disease morally suspect.

It's mostly luck- but you can kid yourself otherwise.
stephen
Calories are only part of the equations. Not taking in enough can actually cause you to gain weight. Also the kind of calories you take in. Carbs that aren't burned are stored as fat.
 
This is a stretch. Not too many chubby Ethiopians...
Not enough calories and starvation are two different things. Not enough calories messes with your metabolism and can cause your body to store fat instead of burn it. Weight loss is about controlling your metabolism.

No stretch, just biology.
 
How very Christian of you :rolleyes:

And I'd like to see you call a "fattie" a fattie to his face :thumbup:

Let me know in advance so I can bring my camera :)

How the hell did we get from ladders to THIS....wow lol
 
When I was framing all the time I was 230 and had a 34" waist and I am 6' tall. That is not the case now I am 265 with a 38" waist I am trying to lose a few pounds but I am a a stress eater and the last few years I have eaten a lot more than I should
those are some interesting stats!

when I had a 34 waist, I weighed about 160# and was also 6ft. tall( senior year high school) and completely skin and bones

robust good health covers a wide range of body types-(and ages) that's one thing I learned from running

in the winter I run indoors on a track and I routinely get ground into the dust by a"buddy" who happens to be a woman in her early 70's-she is incredible( there are a handful of these geezers who routinely mop the floor with runners 1/3 their age, LOL

at road races you will pass someone who is so young,so thin so visibly fit that it's hard to understand how they can be so sloooooow

and then 3 miles later YOU get passed by a heavy dude that you would have sworn would have a heart attack walking from his car into dunkin donuts, LOL.
Stephen
 
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