You can try to get something out of the lady, but doubt you are going to get anything from the other contractor. You got yourself in a bad situation by allowing the woman to select trades. I would ask her if you can two can part ways and reach a settlement.

You are new here, and you will learn quite a bit once others start chiming in.

 

You are not the general contractor.

She is. Stop all work you are doing until she pays you for the costs to redo your work. If she does not pay you up front, walk away and take your lose as another tuition payment towards your higher education.

If you were the GC, she would have given you the contact info for the tile guy. He would have given you a price, you would have added your O&P, she would have paid you, and you would have paid him after verifying he had all the proper licenses and insurances.

You also would have had her sign a hold harmless letter because she selected the sub not you.

 

While the above is correct, being that she is in essence GC'ing the job and not you (what does your contract say), she is responsible for determining when and how things are installed.... if she asked you to installed the vanity, etc. before the tile guy came in, and she allowed them to uninstall it, she's on the hook for the cost to reinstall it...

That said, if your contract says YOU are GC'ing the project, then how you approach this is another matter... so what does your contract say?

 

I should have just said “INCOMING” in my first post.

 

Why was the vanity installed before the tile?

 

Why wouldn't you install the vanity before tile?

 

You're a sub. You did the work she asked you to do, that's the end of it. Give her a price to correct the work she had another sub remove.
This isn't your problem.

 

Furniture style vanity's go in after tile, built in style vanities go in before tile. No odd finish where the tile and cabinet meet.
At this point the urge to go on a rant about how much I hate furniture vanities is nearly overwhelming.

 

... built in style vanities go in before tile...

Not sure who taught you that but whomever it was did you a disservice.
You should never install vanities on a subfloor for many reasons.

 

They all go in after. Why lose au inch or more in height? You need to add a shoe if you tile up to the vanity anyway, or add grout which looks hideous.

Also, when they replace the vanity, now they need to retile.

Spill water, it goes under the vanity.

Also, it is harder for the tile guy. New installs we always wait.

Many reasons to wait.



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I despise shoe molding with a passion. I have twice been forced to use it against my will and still suffer from PTSD after doing it.
Come judgement day we'll all be judged harshly for ever nailing a stick of that crap in a house.

 

Hahaha
Here shoe is everywhere looks odd without it

 

The vanity installer, at the very least, should have identified the fact the floor was not finished and voiced the issue with the (alleged) GC.

"Yeah, I could install this vanity... but the floor is unfinished and the tile setter is going to charge you more for cutting and fitting the tiles around it. You still want it installed? OK, at least I tried to get you to listen to reason."

 

The vanity installer, at the very least, should have identified the fact the floor was not finished and voiced the issue with the (alleged) GC.

I would bet the problem is the installer didn't know any better either. The blind leading the blind.

 

Regardless, homeowner should be responsible for the reinstall costs. Vanity before or after tile is an opinion as far as I'm concerned and if you are "GC" it was your call on putting it in first.

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I remember heard guys say they thought were keeping labor and material costs of tile down by not tiling areas not seen.
Yes I've heard this. Bad practice. For kitchens too

 

All depends. If it's a custom job with a border you need to make sure the layout for the toe kick is exactly right, same if it's wood with a border. If it's floating floor you can't set the cabinets on it anyway, so why not set them first?

 

Good point on these modern floating floors and I won't say I never installed a kitchen before the floor but it's never a good idea. Dishwashers get pinned in.

Guess there's exceptions we make from time to time. Still bathroom floor tile is a water problem waiting to happen

 

Thank goodness for that, at least.

There is more to being a contractor than the ability to write a contract.

 

Strange isn’t it, regional differences and tastes

 

It really is odd. The way we do sinks in granite counter tops makes them damn near impossible to replace, and everyone does them the same way.

 

As far as the OP question, without knowing what’s on your contract, if you even have one, it’s hard to give advice.

Buy this is a clusterfkk you should get away from immediately.

 

I couldn't live without shoe moulding in most cases. But bathrooms are different. Tile preferred.

 

I suspect that the tile guy was one of those subs who would call you and tell you he is concerned with setting the tile because the floor is a 1/8” out of level. But doesn’t think to call you about the vanity in his way.

Either that or his tile saw got stolen and he can’t cut the tile around the vanity so he jerked it out and let the tile run wild underneath.

 

OP... another one and done...

 

Perhaps OP is not finding the answer he was hoping for?

 

Whats wrong with shoe? These are finish moldings that contour and close gaps. Adds detail IMO

 

That's the only time I'll use shoe rather than scribe but it still looks like something from the 50's. Really only fits in older homes.

 

I like the look of shoe in a lot of circumstances. I understand that to fit baseboard to the finished floor takes more effort and skill.

Nice tall classic base over a hardwood floor with some shoe, nice and clean. Looks good imo, without shoe looks kinda modern.

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In higher end construction you will find multi piece trim to close gaps and add detail. Base caps and such.

 

I still have to go back to a basement flood repair job and the floors are all over the place. If anyone wants a fill in gig to scrip these baseboards have at it. Im dreading that

 

Vanities or flooring first is usually a case by case thing for me. I’ve done vanities, base and kitchens before and after flooring a number of times each. When I was trimming new houses it seemed to just come down to which subs where able to start first. Shoe mold was the norm there too.

 

Trying to level a vanity over tile sounds like a pain in the ass, with no good way to get it looking right.

Very few subfloors are perfect, almost every vanity I’ve installed needed at least a little bit of shimming.

Tile is rarely, if ever, perfectly flat. And impossible for any kind of textured tile, like slate.

And I like to pin the base to the floor as well.

Plenty of cons, and I can’t think of a single pro, to setting vanities on top of tile.

Ive never seen or heard of it being done in kitchens.

 

Trying to level a vanity over tile sounds like a pain in the ass, with no good way to get it looking right.

Very few subfloors are perfect, almost every vanity I’ve installed needed at least a little bit of shimming.

Tile is rarely, if ever, perfectly flat. And impossible for any kind of textured tile, like slate.

And I like to pin the base to the floor as well.

Plenty of cons, and I can’t think of a single pro, to setting vanities on top of tile.

Ive never seen or heard of it being done in kitchens.

I had a master Mason (deceased now) that laid my kitchen tiles wall to wall before I placed the cabinets. I placed the cabinets and he came by (he was a buddy as well) to look at the install.
The first thing I told hime was "God Damn you *******, look at what you did to me! I bought these shims to place the cabinets and now I have to return them!
All my levels including my laser proved that I did NOT need a single shim anywhere. It was amazing.
He had set guide strings on a grid some inches above the subfloor and run the tile. It was LEVEL.
I absolutely HATE it when tile does not cover the entire floor. Half the time you have to use a sledge hammer to get the damned dishwasher in...you will never get It out!

 

My tile is always pretty flat. I do have mud jobs done prior.
Sometimes I hot glue a nickel under a corner. Shrug....

 

The way we do it here the tile always goes in after the cabinets! They should have never ripped anything out without asking first they are liable.