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I am having a hard time locating chemical/polymer free grout for a chemically sensitive client. The grout gap is 1/4 " and thought Saltillo grout would work but the gap is too small.

Anyone have a source or solution? I thought maybe we could make our own grout with sand and cement? Not sure of ratio and what else to add and we are in a time crunch now.
 

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I am having a hard time locating chemical/polymer free grout for a chemically sensitive client. The grout gap is 1/4 " and thought Saltillo grout would work but the gap is too small.

Anyone have a source or solution? I thought maybe we could make our own grout with sand and cement? Not sure of ratio and what else to add and we are in a time crunch now.
You might want to ask over at the john bridge tile forums.
 

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Cement contains chemicals so I think the question is whether they have a bad reaction to certain chemical or a bad reaction to the thought of certain chemicals?:jester:

Cementitious grout and sealer involves as many chemicals as a urethane grout in my mind. Can you just give them the MSDS on a cementitious(with sealer), urethane and epoxy and let them make the call?
 

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I think the question is whether they have a bad reaction to certain chemical or a bad reaction to the thought of certain chemicals?:jester:
:D Had someone not want me to bring sand into their house because of silicosis. Mind you, I was going to put it between the pavers on the greenhouse addition............................

People need to realized that there are solids and a carrier, loosely spoken. Glue is 'chemicals' and a carrier--or else it wouldn't flow. Paint is chemicals and a carrier or it wouldn't flow. Thinset/grout is chemicals and a carrier, or it wouldn't flow. Caulk is chemicals and a carrier...or it wouldn't flow.

So once all this junk and stuff is flowed out and applied, what happens to that flowability? The carrier either evaporated and pissed off liberal/progressives (VOCs) or it evaporated, but still annoyed them (water) somehow. Any chems now have done their work and are now set. The chems are now encapsulated and/or gone. Didn't there used to be a suggestion with OSB to let it air out for a while so the glue's bad chems would leave and go to california or something? Heck I dunno, just guessing as I'm just an email account on the internet.

Speaking of which....if anyone is hypersensitive to anything, you're correct....go to the manufacturer and compare notes directly.

Or I guess go to a DIY website and let them tell you to use kerdi or ditra ..... :laughing:
 

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OK, we have a theme of two bubbles. Tiny Bubbles Contracting? Sorry, but am watching the hockey game, so that's all the better I can do at the moment.

How were you able to tile it in the first place if they are so sensitive?
Ya know, that's an excellent point.

Use bubble gum?
OK, now that's number 3.
Bublicious Contracting? Hubba Bubba Tile?
 

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Remodeled a room for a client that had chemical sensitivity. Had to submit samples of all products to his hygienist for analysis. No ready mix joint compound, easy sand is ok; use this paint, not that one; unfaced fiberglass, no Kraft paper.
All of these concerns, working with windows open and exhaust fans, imagine my surprise to walk out one day to find the homeowner smoking a cigarette on the front porch. Made it hard to take him too seriously after that
 

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Remodeled a room for a client that had chemical sensitivity. Had to submit samples of all products to his hygienist for analysis. No ready mix joint compound, easy sand is ok; use this paint, not that one; unfaced fiberglass, no Kraft paper.
All of these concerns, working with windows open and exhaust fans, imagine my surprise to walk out one day to find the homeowner smoking a cigarette on the front porch. Made it hard to take him too seriously after that
Did you ask him how many chemicals are in cigarettes? You can make grout, 4 parts sand 1part Portland white cement and a powdered colorant like what they use for staining concrete. Pre made grout has additives for curing in which you would need to mist grout continuously to cure properly in order for it to hydrate and gain strength. I'm an installer though not a chem engineer, manufacturer, rep.
 

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You'll have to find the right graded sand also, we always used 30/65 for all our "homemade" mixes for epoxies, portlands, playsand won't cut it, too much variation and shape.
 

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imagine my surprise to walk out one day to find the homeowner smoking a cigarette on the front porch.
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Latex allergies are more common that I thought. Had a GF that would break out if I got near her after doing tilework as I had remnants of the dust on me. However, mix it with water and she'd be fine, use it and she'd be fine. It was just the dust that bothered her (and most people I bet). Once whatever it was in cured (paint for example), it's inert, basically a solid. Glues and coating also outgass, but stop when they become cured too.

So maybe get them out of the house while all this stuff is going on?
I know I never cleaned the inside of my vehicle because with all the dust there, she'd never want to borrow it or go for a ride in it with me. ;)
 

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I did a job like that once. Was granite counters(12x12 tile) Wound up with furring strips placed every 6", Lath, mud, chicken wire place in the middle of the mud, then tiles slurried with portland cement and beat into the fresh mud. No grout and no warantee. I was working for another guy at the time. Never mind the cabinets were made of particle board and the track home was full of "off gassing" materials.
 
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