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I am primarilly remodels and siding, but on occasion I am asked to bid a roof job. My Question is do you guys charge for tear off? If so is there a formula? I have been charging the same off as on in my bids, and so far have not received any work. Obviously I am not doing something right here. My customers tell me that the cost is too high. I am in Michigan, and i am hitting at $150 a square on a 9/12 - 12/12 pitch plus materials. Am I just not selling hard enough, or am I out there?

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You are way tooooo low if you are charging $150 a square off and on, unless you are charging additional $150 ontop of your existing price for a tear off. If you are adding $150 just for the tear off, you might be a little bit high.

Then again if you truly need to charge $150 for the tear off to make money then you shouldn't cut your price and work for a loss.

Learn to sell on quality, not price. If your customer is a contractor, then that's your problem right there.
 

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Hey Grumpy,

That is what I was doing, 150 on and 150 off. Do not really need that much to make enough money, other contractors told me this is how they did it. So I just found this site and thought I would find out how others are bidding these jobs.

I'm thinking my competitors are probably not giving me good advice.

Thanks again,

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I'm thinking my competitors are probably not giving me good advice.
There would be your second mistake, asking for pricing advice from your local competitors.

What to charge for tear-off is a pretty open ended question, you said it's a steep pitched roof, but you didn't say how many layers you're tearing off and are you suppling the dump with that price?
 

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Hey housedocs,

It is 1 layer and I was charging for the dumpster. It is 30sq 9/12 6 valleys 1 chimney, and I had it figured for a 30 yard dumpster. I came in at $9,753.00 Does that sound excessive?

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No, I recently priced one , 1 layer remove thicker laminated shingle,
install.. 30lb. felt cap nailed, drip edge, gutter apron, ice and water, all new flashings behind wood siding,ridge vent, mostly 2 story and a little cut up, 30 yrd dumpster, touch up siding when done, install 30 yr laminated hand nailed 10/12 -12/12.....$370 sq. owner wants to get 2 more bids.
 

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30 yd is probably a little much for 30 squares 1 layer. A 20 is probably adequate. I am sometimes in the $300+ range depending on the difficulty of the job.

Search this for for: "A gift for my friends" by me as the author. I think it will help you.
 

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Hey thanks a ton Grumpy,

BTW, it was a bit hard to find, it is under "a present for my friends".

Red Cedar, that makes me feel a little beter, at least it is not just me. When I look at a siding job I know from the minute I walk around the house what the bid should be. Roofs are not my bread and butter, though I like to think of them as icing, so I realize that I am not going to be as efficient as someone that just does roofing. I believe that I can be real damn close though, and getting the proper bid in is crucial to success in my estimation.

Thanks again,

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Quite honestly., I felt my pricing was a little high. The numbers just seem to add up kind of quickly. The rapport was good from the get go, he might come back to me with the other pricing, ( presuming its lower ) Also the pricing was a bit higher due to pricing of another roofing product, to make the other product not seem so much more. We'll see.
 

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red_cedar said:
...Also the pricing was a bit higher due to pricing of another [roofing] product, to make the other product not seem so much more.
Reading that passage made me smile. I thought I was the only one who did that. :Thumbs:
 

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Post hurricane prices for architecturals here are $320.00 sq. I just dug out a couple of estimates. Incls. tear off, 2 sheets deck, renail to code, 30# and hand nailed.
 

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Yup, It's about 10 mins. from where I live. I know one of the captains on the Island Princess.
Does this look familiar? I'm the good lookin' one on the right and it's my fish on light tackle.
 

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I think that I have got it Tom. I opened up one of those basic, free websites. It only allows 50 pics though.
 
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