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I bet alot of trades wish they could or would have done soething like this
Never happen in the States, unfortunately. You'd be arrested.

And I never saw any salvageable material the builder claimed to be taking back.

And what would have happened if that roof fell on the car?
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Never happen in the States, unfortunately. You'd be arrested.

And I never saw any salvageable material the builder claimed to be taking back.

And what would have happened if that roof fell on the car?
Yeah, but I'll bet he felt better afterwords. I know I would.:thumbsup:
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Yeah, but I'll bet he felt better afterwords. I know I would.:thumbsup:

I know I would, too.

I know of another electrician who never got paid for a basement finish and addition he wired. When he heard the HO was going on a two-week trip to Florida in February, he went out with a bucket truck and a hot stick and disconnected the transformer on the pole that fed the house. He came back a week later and turned it back on.

When the HO came home, his basement was full of half-frozen water. :laughing:
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Guess where ever that was, does not have MM lien laws.....

You guys that are internationally located.... do you have MM lien laws. ... and Canadian Brothers, do you have them.... never thyought about it before.


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Never happen in the States, unfortunately. You'd be arrested.

And I never saw any salvageable material the builder claimed to be taking back.

And what would have happened if that roof fell on the car?
What? He had a tarp on it. It was protected.
I've always though our law was wrong in regard to situations like this, I'm glad English law has more sense.
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Guess where ever that was, does not have MM lien laws.....

You guys that are internationally located.... do you have MM lien laws. ... and Canadian Brothers, do you have them.... never thyought about it before.


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Could you explain what it is in simple english?
Good for that dude.

Imo, there should be very little we shouldnt be able to do to recover our money.
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Guess where ever that was, does not have MM lien laws.....

You guys that are internationally located.... do you have MM lien laws. ... and Canadian Brothers, do you have them.... never thyought about it before.


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Could you explain what it is in simple english?
Bucket.... Sorry, thought of that later.

In brief w/o extensive detail, we have thruout the States a set of laws that protects against non-payment of mechanics (trades people) and materials (suppliers).... hence the common name of MM Laws.

Rather then lengthy/expensive suit for non-payment, a tradesman may file a claim against the property for which he worked on. That lien encumbers the propoerty against sale and refinance of the owner, and can be much more effective than obtaining judgement against a party that owes money and then subsequent enforcing (collecting) on that judgement.

Each state has certain modifications/procedures, and there are some nominal costs involved.... but it is a much simplified and effective system intended/designed to protect tradesmen and suppliers.

Done correctly, it does not insure/guarantee immediate payment, but it often does as it is a matter of public record.

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........ hence the common name of MM Laws. ............
First time I've heard the term.

To me, MM is a candy.
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Bucket.... Sorry, thought of that later.

In brief w/o extensive detail, we have thruout the States a set of laws that protects against non-payment of mechanics (trades people) and materials (suppliers).... hence the common name of MM Laws.

Rather then lengthy/expensive suit for non-payment, a tradesman may file a claim against the property for which he worked on. That lien encumbers the propoerty against sale and refinance of the owner, and can be much more effective than obtaining judgement against a party that owes money and then subsequent enforcing (collecting) on that judgement.

Each state has certain modifications/procedures, and there are some nominal costs involved.... but it is a much simplified and effective system intended/designed to protect tradesmen and suppliers.

Done correctly, it does not insure/guarantee immediate payment, but it often does as it is a matter of public record.

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Thanks, legalize is a hard language to follow.
First time I've heard the term.

To me, MM is a candy.
Iowa may title it differently.... but I'd bet dollars-to-doughnuts, you have some form of it.

Do you ever have to sign something titled similar to a "lien waiver" when you've completed a big job and been paid.?

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Bucket.... Sorry, thought of that later.

In brief w/o extensive detail, we have thruout the States a set of laws that protects against non-payment of mechanics (trades people) and materials (suppliers).... hence the common name of MM Laws.

Rather then lengthy/expensive suit for non-payment, a tradesman may file a claim against the property for which he worked on. That lien encumbers the propoerty against sale and refinance of the owner, and can be much more effective than obtaining judgement against a party that owes money and then subsequent enforcing (collecting) on that judgement.

Each state has certain modifications/procedures, and there are some nominal costs involved.... but it is a much simplified and effective system intended/designed to protect tradesmen and suppliers.

Done correctly, it does not insure/guarantee immediate payment, but it often does as it is a matter of public record.

Best
Working on a house that the people are planning on spending the rest of their lives in make payment almost non existent.
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At least in Colorado, you can forclose on that MM lien.

And you'd be surprized how refinancings and estate planning issues can cause issues that demand your lien be paid off.... plus many places you are entitled to interest.... and your position can be sold to another who's investment timeline may differ from yours.

Additionally, you can still sue for payment.
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Iowa may title it differently.... but I'd bet dollars-to-doughnuts, you have some form of it.

Do you ever have to sign something titled similar to a "lien waiver" when you've completed a big job and been paid.?

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Never said we didn't have Mechanics' liens and lien waivers.

I just stated I've never heard of an MM Lien.
It was for the best he didnt get paid, now the lady doesnt have to worry about the crappy roof that wasnt tied into the house uplifting and crashing on soemone's head. Iddiot just let it fall like a complete jack ass? At least look like a pro and show up with a crane and salvage the roof nice and neartly. Put the show on that your a pro not some monkey swinging a sledge hammer.
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Never said we didn't have Mechanics' liens and lien waivers.

I just stated I've never heard of an MM Lien.
Yes... Titles/Statutes get regional reference names...

Curiosity....

In Iowa, do you have a regional/local name for the statuatory action of a tradesman filling against a property... ????

Do you just call it a Mechanics lien, or nothing....or maybe your statutes do not apply to suppliers.... just wondered
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