to expensive and get torn up to quick. these usually last 4-5 days before there torn out. and not bad for $4.00 a pair.

Summer

Winter

 

doubleaction;386417]to expensive and get torn up to quick. these usually last 4-5 days before there torn out. and not bad for $4.00 a pair.

I've used them. They last for months for Carpentry work.

For Roofing, a good 2-3 months (with the top of the finger tips cut off).

That's a lot less than the $1.00 plus a day that Atlas Gloves cost.

 

We use cotton gloves like the ones above, but cotton all around. They last about a day roofing and last a good while siding. We buy them in bulk at 28 cents a pair so it doesn't matter.

In cold months we use the heavy type jersey gloves they sell in bulk at most stores. Usually yellow or green in color.

 

I use my hands then pick the dried pieces of blister off.gloves are for women gardeners.

 

A little hard on the Johnson with them paws wiz?

I'm sure your better half would appreciate a few less blisters and calluses when you run those sandpaper mitts down her spine.:shutup:

There's something to be said for the comfort of hands that aren't bleeding at the end of the day and still having fingers that bend after 30 years in the biz.

 

You would be surprised at how much less aggravated one is at the end of the day when one wears gloves. Dry, cracked, tore-up hands can really put you in a bad mood. Try it Roofwiz. You never know. You may even wind up planting some Roses!!!!

 

Here, here. Not only is it better to use gloves, it makes for better quality work. A hand with a cut in it cannot perform as well as a protected hand. Besides, I want to work everyday I can and not have any down days because of injuries.

I "used to" be a tough guy. Then, I got smart. My father has arthritis directly attirbuted to his work (roofing for 45 years). I hear of so many "tough guys" who have shot knees for not using knee pads or "tough guys" with Carpenter's elbow.

If being "not" tough means that I can work longer into my old age, that I can work safe and perform better, then I'll be that definition of weak anyday over being a tough guy.

Don't get me wrong, to each his own, but I find that I work way faster and with a greater peace of mind when I use protection.

It's like footwear. My buddy wore these pointy (I call them gay) boots. He laughed at me for being so construction gear savvy as I showed him my Timberland PRO's. As I wrote earlier, he ended up slipping and busting his face open. All to be "macho" (how one could be "macho" with gay boots is beyond me).

I've seen guys with frickin' sandals on a job site. There's nothing tough about sandals. Sneakers, I understand. Some of us have foot problems, but the boot manufacturers have responded with a great line of hardcore, site safe sneakers and lesser restrictive hiker-type boots.

 

By the way, just got my Youngstown Roofer's Gloves in the mail + my Ironclad Icons! :thumbsup:

 

I see you found them both! Same site??

 

Give em a good test run and I will accept your findings as fact and buy or not from there! Appreciate the effort and the data!


Thanks!

MARK

 

Will do Mark. I've used both their products before and have been extremely satisfied with them. Actually, these items I bought now are way better than their other products. I can only expect them to perform better.

The Youngtowns are very comparable to the Icons, but are about $10. cheaper and seem better for Roofing (Asphalt reinforced) while the Icons are way better for Carpentry and power tool use. I wouldn't use the Icons for Roofing.

:thumbsup:

 

I have not touched a Three-Tab since 2002, but I do need an everyday, rugged-as-hell GP glove. Everything from climbing a Cell Phone Tower to installing a new alternator in a car to grabbing #8x1.25 inch screws one at a time from a pouch.

As I posted in response to Roofwiz, I wear gloves for everything. There was a time that I would suffer constant low-grade pain in my hands due to constant abuse that was easy enough to ignore on the outside, but it was making me a Grumpy, not-nice-to-be-near, SOB.

Wearing gloves and avoiding those little nicks, scrapes and chafes has literally Changed My Life.

Again, Thanks!

 

:thumbsup:

 

bunch of girls.I have rough hands always have,I work with them.I can't see spending money on gloves that don't last.and none of them do.find some the shingles don't have wore out in a day.
Tough guy?no just a working man.I can tell you don't hand bang.I'd love to see you flip nails with gloves on.lol.
I don't know how you work but besides a blister every now and then I don't hurt my hands.try hitting the nails.

 

Try it! You just might like it! If not....Carry on Young Grasshopper. "Be like water. Become the Bottle." (Bruce Lee)

 

I have tried gloves.I've bought lots of gloves.Got my first pair of brown cotton
ones about 25 yrs ago,to clean up.they didn't make it the day.I have had luck with oiled smooth leather when doing hot.for putting on shingles?no,they don't make a glove that is worth the money to me.
I don't mind it.$20 plus bucks to have some gloves that won't make it a week,keep them.I'll save the money for fishing bait and beer.

 

I can not argue with the Bait-n-Beer point!!!!!!

 

my wife would call me a girl if I had soft hands.I don't beat my hands to death,just choose to not wear gloves when shingling.it doesn't work and the gloves don't last.you fella's wanna waste 20 a day,week,whatever go ahead.

 

We use the masons gloves.They go for about $1.50/pr in bulk at the supply house.Sometimes we three days out of them.
Pretty good bang for the buck here.
I need them because my knuckles crack open and start to bleed in the winter
Don't like working with them,but most of the time we're running guns and the customer doesn't like seeing us pizz on our hands to get the guns free.

 

lol,I'll wear the cheepies in the winter.the winter hands are pretty painful.

 

Say what you want, but you can't shingle or even work all day without gloves. I just don't buy it. Maybe a pencil pusher.

I'd like to be able to pick my nose without getting a nose bleed. lol

 

:laughing:

 

=roofwiz74;397389]I can tell you don't hand bang.

I used to for 20 years, but then I experienced the beauty of guns and never looked back. Twice the production. Safer. Mo' money, mo' money, mo' money!

I'd love to see you flip nails with gloves on.lol

I don't have to. That's the beauty of guns. I just load a coil (with gloves on) and knock out a bundle in 60 seconds while a hand nailr is figiting with his nails.

I don't know how you work but besides a blister every now and then I don't hurt my hands.try hitting the nails.

Again, I don't have to hit a nail. The gun does that for me. I have nice soft hands. But then again, I had nice soft hands when I was shingling by hand for a couple of decades because I kept wearing the skin down on my hands with the abrasiveness of the material. I've never had messed up hands. I guess I lucked out with good genes maybe.

:thumbsup:

 

That really ended my night on a smiling note!

Just finished watching The Zeitgeist Movie on the net(again). Pretty powerful stuff but nothing of news to me, facts I already knew! But boy oh boy is it heavy stuff to go to sleep on!

Here is a video related to yours and to my previous post .

Just some really good philosophy by a great man who was taken way before his time!

 

That really ended my night on a smiling note!

Just finished watching The Zeitgeist Movie on the net(again). Pretty powerful stuff but nothing of news to me, facts I already knew! But boy oh boy is it heavy stuff to go to sleep on!

Here is a video related to yours and to my previous post .

Just some really good philosophy by a great man who was taken way before his time!

FOCUS DANIELSON!
:laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing:

 

post a video of you wearing those gloves and putting on a bundle in 60 secs.

 

Not me, but you get the picture. :thumbsup:
(And trust you me, I'm wayyyyy faster than him)

 

Last year was the first year I shingled with out gloves, I never thought of not using them before that.

I feel I'm faster with out them. I was spending about $10 a pair and they would last me 1-3 days. really my fingers don't get too bad, I'll feel it but they don't hurt that bad. My hands are pretty soft too, I don't have leather hands.

I work extreamly long hours in the summer too, a minimum of 12 hours. I get paid by the job and try to get them done in as few days as possible if the work is booked up.

I won't be using glvoes again this year for shingling, I only use them for tear offs.

 

Hi Jay,

Yeah, I have this "to each his own" theory. I've learned from working with so many different people that everybody has their own preferences. I've seen guys do things that I couldn't, but then, they'd see me do things they couldn't do...yet and still, we respected each other's choices.

Take my father for example, he still roofs with a cloth apron, a Roofer's Knife and a 16oz claw hammer from Sears. He rarely uses a chalkline. He used to use a folding ruler a lot. He's big time old school.

I work with gloves with the thumb and first two fingers cut off. I have to have that "feel". I started out working without gloves for like 10 years, but then got a hold of a pair of my brother inlaw's baseball batting gloves (this was before Ironclads and high performance gloves came about). I naturally wore out the finger tips, so from then on, I began buying them, but cutting the tips off myself (not they make them specifically for roofers with the tips cut off).

They last me a good 2-3 months so they end up costing me (at worst) .37 cents a day (for a two work months). I pay (I should say "paid" because the price has dropped even more now) about $30. for them. Now, I get them for under $20. and their even geared specifically towards roofers with even more reinforcements and they last even longer.

Plus, I love the fact that their washable, their a lot less dangerous than cotton gloves when using drills and my hands don't end up smelling at the end of the day.

If you ever did decide to try out gloves again, I'd suggest either Ironclads (even they've dropped in price a lot are still the best around for about $21.) or Youngstown Roofer's Plus Gloves.

My favs now...

 

Thanks again 2ndGen.

 

I agree with EVERYTHING in this video except no drip edge on the rise!

Flat sole shoes, glove(s), Bostitch Coil, GAF Sovereigns, Hammer for mis-sets, suspenders, bottle of water (apparently empty)....Where is the knee pads???

Perfect roofer!

 

I'd set up the hose to come down from the top so that it would always be out of his way as he'd come across and place a coil at every bundle keeping them out of his bag (to keep them nice and coiled instead of in the bag where they can get bent).

He looks young. He still needs to find his flow...still needs to get into a groove. That run shouldn't have taken almost 2 minutes (even a coil change just takes a couple of seconds (5 with practice). You could figure an average of one shingle per second with a second to move up the line.

I once banged away 4.5 squares in about 20 minutes. That's about a bundle a minute. Under the right conditions, that's not unreasonable. I'll be perfectly content with 3 squares an hour consistantly.

It all depends on the person holding the gun. I just can't work slow with a gun. You put a gun in my hand and it's like my body goes into autopilot. I know a lot of guys like that in all kinds of trades. I love to watch guys working their trades that know what their doing.

Sorry for going so long with the text. :shutup:

 

It is the text that personifies experience. Without it, the learning curve gets terminally long! Every word is appreciated.

 

As a fellow New Yorker..."Thanks Bro!":thumbup:

 

Yup!

 

AHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAH LMAO, That video is hillarious! That's a shingler at his best!

Look at the shingles on the edge of the rake on the right side of the picture. Terrible crooked. Shingling standing he looks like an idiot! Sorry, but that is pathetic.

BTW, It's not tough to lay a bundle in 60 seconds, but you can't keep that pace for more than a few hours.

12 hours a day, sure that's easy if you work slowly. I'd rather work hard and be done in 6 hours.

 

Give the kid a break! LOL He was nervous! He kept fumbling, he had no rythm. But he's gettin' it. He's like a teen having sex for the first time. All ready to go, but clumsy. With practice, he'll catch on.

Like I said, a good 3 squares an hour is reasonable. When one considers set-up & break-down time, lunck, a couple of breaks, 6 hours is what you can expect of a day under ideal circumstances. That's 18 squares for one man with a helper. Not a bad days work.

Of course, you can have those blow out days where you can lay down 100 squares a day (as I've done) with 4 guys and 2 helpers, but that's under really perfect conditions.

I'll be perfectly content with 18 squares in a day.

But hey, he was racking them quick with a glove!

 

He did move quick and seemed like he wanted to work hard for those Mexicans. Imagine if he had a good teacher how good he could be.

 

Give him to me and by the end of the day, I'd increase his production at least 100%. I'd turn him into and artisan. He's got the goods, he just needs the direction.