[EricBrancard]

Pella has literally been resting on their laurels for close to sixty years! That far back in time they made a good window. Now the top sellers spend more on advertising then some of the best companies gross for the year. It has gotten to the point where they have pumped the consumers so full of it they actually believe it. Window adds got like other products......when you want a cola you say give me a ?? when you sneeze you ask for a ???

There will be a preponderance of "replacement" windows as long as consumers buy into the smoke and mirrors put forth by run of the mill window manufactures. It is pure folly to believe that there are no maintenance windows IE. vinyl or aluminum clad.They just hide the rot until the window the whole window falls apart.


There is an old saying,buy cheap you buy twice,in the world of windows it will be many more times than twice. In short order the "replacement" windows will need replacing.


If you truly want a good window forget all the brands that pump the contractors and consumers full of it.


You will pay big bucks for top-notch windows buy in the long run you will be miles ahead.

IMHO if you want good windows look at Zeluck, Heartwood,or Parrot.

How many times the cost is one of these brand windows compared to a typical window?

 

[Localday]

I've been having luck with tempco windows, my supplier has been trying to get me to try these alliance windows, I bid a few but haven't herd back on em yet

 

[fjn]

How many times the cost is one of these brand windows compared to a typical window?

At least 2.5--3 times more however,it is like a paint job,it costs as much in labor to paint on cheap paint as a good one. With the windows,how much does it cost to keep replacing windows every 12,20,or if the owner is lucky 35 yrs.in the course of the buildings life cycle ? Not to mention the disruption both on the exterior and interior of the home while one is "trying" to live in it.

With the non permanent window not only do you have the cost to buy the replacement,you also have the continuous labor charges to contend with. In the long run the high quality window will pay for itself many times over.

 

[EricBrancard]

At least 2.5--3 times more however,it is like a paint job,it costs as much in labor to paint on cheap paint as a good one. With the windows,how much does it cost to keep replacing windows every 12,20,or if the owner is lucky 35 yrs.in the course of the buildings life cycle ? Not to mention the disruption both on the exterior and interior of the home while one is "trying" to live in it.

With the non permanent window not only do you have the cost to buy the replacement,you also have the continuous labor charges to contend with. In the long run the high quality window will pay for itself many times over.

Depends on the market and the customer. The average person will probably not live in the home for 35 years. Even if they are, it's pretty hard to convince someone to spend that much more on windows. We could be talking going from $10k to $30k? That's not a small up charge.

I hear what you are saying, but I think you know as well as I do what the market supports in most cases.

 

[fjn]

How many times the cost is one of these brand windows compared to a typical window?

Still a very respectable quality window at a lower price point than those previously mentioned would be these. http://www.bergersonwindow.com/products/

 

[fjn]

Possibly the best service we can render a client regarding their choices / decisions with window selection is to steer them as far as possible from choosing casement windows. Every "name" brand without exception, of casements is prone to sash fatigue,some sooner,some later,it is a matter of when not if.


When sash fatigue occurs,the only remedy is to replace the window.The three durable not disposable brands I mentioned are well aware of the nuances of sash fatigue;designing,building and warrantying their windows against that common short coming is something they build into their products.

If a consumer is unfortunate enough to choose a casement by one of the disposable manufactures they have set themselves up for a constant and continuous cycle of window replacement. Only exception.....if they never or rarely open their windows.

 

[EricBrancard]

Only exception.....if they never or rarely open their windows.

Put me in that category. The only casement windows in my new house are in front of the kitchen sink. The rest are DH. If any of them get opened more than once a year I will be surprised. Panasonic fans in the bathrooms and an HRV for air quality.

 

[TLHWindows]

If you are starting a replacement window showroom, I recommend -http://www.windowchoice.ca/window-tips/why-vinyl-windows-are-simply-better- go with vinyl replacement windows[/URL] not wooden or aluminium. Wooden windows are way behind in durability, maintenance and energy efficiency while aluminium windows can be durable, it can hurt energy efficiency and also both wooden and aluminium windows are expensive compared to vinyl windows. They are more durable, less expensive, less maintenance and better energy efficient. It’s popularity is increasing day by day. There are several companies producing vinyl windows. Having a little research in the market will help.

BOOOO SPAMMER

 

[Jaws]

Marvin, Marvin E series (formerly Eagle) and Marvin Integrity primarily.

 

[fourcornerhome]

Has anyone tried the new Pella 250 series vinyl replacement?
I Had priced out a 30 x 53 1/2 double hung at $208.15, but didn't make the sale.

 

[IHI]

Has anyone tried the new Pella 250 series vinyl replacement?
I Had priced out a 30 x 53 1/2 double hung at $208.15, but didn't make the sale.

Just installed 11 of them and the homeowner looked at the 250 and 350 series. They good, not the best window out there, but definitely not the worst either...good value for most homies. I had them ordered with built in j channel to ease my pain when siding the place and overall I'd recommend them as a budget conscious window.

 

[jb4211]

I've been buying mine from Northeast Building Supply. They make the Windows there. There about $190 for 105 UIs. Nice window, very heavy, lifetime warranty. I like them.

I hate the 2week lead time.

 

[Oberon]

Marvin, Marvin E series (formerly Eagle) and Marvin Integrity primarily.

Not to disagree, but E series is actually Andersen rather than Marvin.

 

[Tom Struble]

you want to know about windows that man ^^^knows about windows

 

[Patrick]

Put my vote for sunrise. I have Kaskel in my house though no complaints i sell truck loads of them

 

[Delaware Mike]

I've been installing the Sunrise lines for about a decade now and I really wish that their engineers would have put a little more thought into not just maximizing viewable glass with insert windows, but into a stronger vinyl extrusion that didn't always have frowned sills. Their frames vary from .060" to .080" depending upon where you take readings.

It's about the most expensive vinyl product out there too which was fine with me until they brought in a bunch a new people and cut out of their dealer promotions. The QC last fall was terrible and lead times aren't as good as in the past.

 

[Jaws]

Not to disagree, but E series is actually Andersen rather than Marvin.

Your right. :laughing:

I used to use a lot of Anderson, but my rep went out of business, only olace local to order is through Home Depot, and that aint happening.

Anyone use Jeld Wen or Showcase? Any reviews?

 

[Fender]

I'm not a fan of Jeld wen. Idk if my experience came with their super low end windows, but they seem like junk compare to Milgard, or even Cascade.

 

[rivervalleyremodelin]

Pella is a good brand. I don’t install them but being around the trade for 30 years. Pella is one of the better ones.

 

[Henry c]

I am in ormond beach fl . Where can I buy 5 windows direct from manufacturer
Thank you
Henry