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:eek: Saw one of these on a jobsite last week - just found them online.

Anyone of you guys heard of it, or have one?!? What do you think of it?

Hehehe I felt like a kid watching these trim guys use it.

One of their vids.

 

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I would not mind having something like that in my shop but I wonder if it is practical on the job site.

What did you think of the one you saw in person. Did it look like it could take the abuse a tool gets on the job site.

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Actually - it looked pretty solid...

I would say yes it could handle jobsites. Mainly judging that by the nail-jockeys using it - they didn't seem like the delicate type :laugh: Slamming 2x6's into it all day.

Everything was all internally housed in it. Pretty slick design. Crazy how fast they were going...

Also found their webby - www.sawgear.com
 

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couple questions

why did the sissy in the video have gloves on and no safety glassess?

why is punching numbers any faster than reading a tape measure?

why do people cut framing material with a chop saw?

why I really don't get it.
 

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It would be cool to have one of those. But $2400 is too much.

Who wears gloves like that working indoors? I guess he wants to keep his hands soft for wifey. :laughing:
 

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couple questions

why did the sissy in the video have gloves on and no safety glassess?

why is punching numbers any faster than reading a tape measure?

why do people cut framing material with a chop saw?

why I really don't get it.
I always want my guys framing with a chop saw. I am not saying it is fast but I think it does a better job.
 

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Tigerstop is the original, and they handle abuse pretty well. We used them on Whirlwind upcut saws in the cabinet shop.
 

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Are you guys fnn kidding , that’s stupid toy home cheapo couldn’t make it in the field people would use
The kid using that waste of junk and space wouldn’t last 30 mins on my crew
You would spend more time breaking down and setting up then it would be worth, never mind the shear abuse it would have to handle, I can see it now , 3 carpenters standing line waiting for a cut
If it could cut bastered roof rafters I’ll buy two
 

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looks like it would be a good setup for production trim cutting large amounts of window jamb extensions and casing legs, but for framing i highly doubt it would hold up. our crew has 2 dewalts beat to **** and a makita not far behind. my bosch is saved for finish work.

and how we have 3 dewalt table saws with the rack and pinion this thing reminds me of it and how much down time would there be if it needs adjusting
 

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Are you guys fnn kidding , that’s stupid toy home cheapo couldn’t make it in the field people would use
The kid using that waste of junk and space wouldn’t last 30 mins on my crew
You would spend more time breaking down and setting up then it would be worth, never mind the shear abuse it would have to handle, I can see it now , 3 carpenters standing line waiting for a cut
If it could cut bastered roof rafters I’ll buy two
fester - If you have something to say - you shouldn't beat around the bush. :laughing:

I probably wouldn't be considering buying one unless I had actually seen it in use. We pull out our chop saws everyday. Sure reading a tape may take the same amount of time as punching in a number. But what about re-measuring on your board, marking it, lining up the mark to the cut on your saw... How can you not see that this is quicker??

Maybe it's not as important to 1/4" tolerance-framers, but to finish guys - being nuts-on is what makes or breaks the job.

My 2 cents.
 

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I'd run circles around anyone trying to use that trim out a house.
how does it adjust for short/long bevels, odd angles, cutting crown?

only purpose I could see is cutting window jambs, and casing with it.
for $2400 I'll just stick to screwing a block to my bench for repeated cuts
 

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That would be interesting to see a side by side comparison of a pro contractor vs. this thing... Probably would have to be a 3rd party.

I don't think anyone would believe the company if they did it. Be too many guys ripping the "pro contractor" to shreds if this thing won.

Well - I guess no matter who did it, other guys are going to rip their method to shreds. That's what we contractors do best! :clap:
 

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Years ago, when I built my first Shop Saw rig, I used one of these;

http://www.amazon.com/Biesemeyer-78-989-T-Square-Pointer-Cut-Off/dp/B00002260M/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1259689840&sr=1-5

Back then they were $29.99. (and I thought that was too much :rolleyes:) It was kind of lightweight for framing but it gave me ideas on making my own. What I have now is a simple fence system with a tape on it and a custom made stop with a plus-12” stop block similar to the one in the saw gear video so I can easily cut stacks of blocks under 12”. To set the stop I add 1’ to the block length and Vice-grip clamp the pointer guage on the measure fence dimension. For the single cuts over a foot the tape is calibrated to be used without any stop, just line up the square end on the desired dimension and hold to cut. I can gang cut two blocks at a time. Anything over 6’ long and I conventionally gang cut with a frame saw from longer stock usually, but I can cut up to 92 5/8” with it.

As far as having a cutting race to see what method will cut the most the fastest, it may not be a fair competition. The thing that the shop saw setup will do for you is allow you to put your green horn sissy-girlfriend helper at the saw and keep up with a veteran sawyer using a framing saw.:gunsmilie: I’m sure the vet’s costly talents are better used elsewhere.:clap:

I also wish the term “Chop Saw” had never been invented. I can’t tell you how many guys I’ve had come on my site and jam the saw through a two-by like they were chopping wood with a circular saw. I prefer the term “Shop Saw”, because it makes “Shop” quality cuts, (and also, that’s how most local Mexicans pronounce “Chop” too :w00t:). The point is that they need to let the saw work as it is designed too and not force the blade, jam, or “Chop” wood with it.


(I doubt that the saw gear setup is as fast as the one I have for doing what I do with mine, but I think it is still very nice, and much nicer than I need.:no:)
 

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Are you guys fnn kidding , that’s stupid toy home cheapo couldn’t make it in the field people would use
The kid using that waste of junk and space wouldn’t last 30 mins on my crew
You would spend more time breaking down and setting up then it would be worth, never mind the shear abuse it would have to handle, I can see it now , 3 carpenters standing line waiting for a cut
If it could cut bastered roof rafters I’ll buy two
Wow - I guess this is the road I chose when I agreed to let these guys film on my jobsite... Yikes. Pull no punches here.

I'll address some of the questions posted here, and if anyone else has any other intelligent questions to ask, aside from "why's the sissy wearing gloves?", (which, to be fair - is a valid question) I'm happy to answer them, post pictures/videos, share insights or whatever else.

Hopefully - I haven't completely discredited myself for pointing at a corner where no blocking was installed - in an area we hadn't even touched yet. And yes - I do like to keep my hands soft for wifey. :cheesygri
 
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