2 chimneys soldered coppper flashed and stone porch
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Do you remember some guys out of Uncasville, I think it was a father/son operation......Richard Kirsch was the son I think.... Thames Permacrete? We used to get a lot of stuff from them....I'm not even sure they exist anymore......my dad was one of the few non Italians in the biz, but only because his partnership with the Cardile bros. had ended.Connecticut has a great history of Italian masonry contractors and seems it is still continuing. You seem to be able to do what is needed in a first class way.
Are your projects around Hartford or the lower post road/I95 area where there is some money and the desire to fit in properly?
I lived in CT for about a year and went to many mason contractors meetings and got to understand the feel and competition. When I went to my first meeting they had tags made out and I was the only one that did not have an "I" or "O" as the last letter. The next meeting, they added a "O" to my last name and pelted me with rolls from the bread basket. - Is there still an "Italian Society" house south and west of Hartford?
the copper more expensive and at today's prices only the high end jobs warrant it....it's easier to solder too as you can't burn through it.Very nice. Looks like a massive chimney.
Is there an advantage to using copper over galv, or is it just asthetic?
Do you remember some guys out of Uncasville, I think it was a father/son operation......Richard Kirsch was the son I think.... Thames Permacrete? We used to get a lot of stuff from them....I'm not even sure they exist anymore......my dad was one of the few non Italians in the biz, but only because his partnership with the Cardile bros. had ended.
I remember those days like they were yesterday....he ran a union shop, but many of the guys worked fairly steadily for him for many years......it was funny, most everybody identified through their lineage back then, and knew others the same way, mostly Italian, but some Poles, (Polacks really, never heard the word 'Pole') Frenchmen, a German, and just a small handful whose names would have come from the UK....
You must have been there some time ago......I haven't heard 'the post road' for a long time...
No don't know them....that's by the casino near Rhode Island.
I never worked that way exept once.I helped an Italian mason out doing a library....he kept puttiing me on layout and then complaining the joints were too tight! He had already done some block work before I and my laborer started and he didn't like the contrasting styles....lol. He bitched because I was packing in the grout too much ....he made it real dry purposely to save money.....and I kept adding enough water to pack it!
I stood three days and got away as he wa a real shoe-maker!
So see they come in all flavors...I have a Italian mason friend whom is similarly mediocre at best! He actually went in the mason business after his father [whom changed from being a butcher to a mason] left for florida.
The guy was a laborer for his dad up to when he started his company! I have a Irish friend whoes family were all great brickys, but he's lowsy..anything goes, builds fps hollow with a 2ft level, meandering all the way up truely pathetic,.. fat butt joints bigger than a thumb!
His wife is a hair dresser at a hospital whom continuously gets him jobs with elderly people whom are disadvantaged in more than one way.
He charged/charges an old lady 4000 to stop her f.p. from leaking! He stages it takes the top off and pours slurry down it until full!
I stopped by once as he was finishing....I noticed the flashing had separated at the roof, so I said, here's the problem. He said Ya I'm gonna caulk it!
He spent about 4 short lazy days there and 200 on matereials if that!
Imagine if someone down the road lights it and heats it!
The old generations were from a hardened generation whom were pretty much humiliated when they came here. The preceeding imigrants from other countries always made things hard on successors...it's how it was.
One things for certain though, they had alot of masonry!
There was....plaster/ stucco/ block foundations/ porches/ fireplaces/ and stone basements and walls..... There was always a 55 gal drum of hot lime slacking in the barn.
The old man would say to me 2 bags of portland to a basement,,,the rest was lime...and the outside stones were basically dry untill just below grade!
I'll bet many here don't know that sears robuck sold houses after the war. They came out with sheet rock which they tried to have white coated! My dad said they would put one room on then two then three and it wouldnt dry...they ended up doing the hole house, an still wet. The sheet rock was later flipped backwards like rock lath [stopped that now too around here in new england] then it worked...but then tape and compound came out.
I used to here the storys of masons laying 1200 brick a day...but they were three courses wide and somtimes 16'' lol.
depends on how you get paid though. Paid by the brick/sqft, give me a long wall any day of the week. Paid by the hour...who cares. Right now I'd kill for a 500 brick day just for the satisfaction.Bragging about brick count gets you one thing, long runs all day long while the guys who arnt full of themselves get to do quoins, arches and other fun detail stuff.
Carry on bragging. lol.
I agree Sean...stand at one spot all day during the winter sucks esp. at my age.....I used to look down at my laborers playing near the fire barrell and envy them.....depends on how you get paid though. Paid by the brick/sqft, give me a long wall any day of the week. Paid by the hour...who cares. Right now I'd kill for a 500 brick day just for the satisfaction.
If you refer to me ....and If I'm being braggish I didn't mean it,.. but it felt good, as I said.The union here has a saying. 480 minutes in a day 480 bricks to lay, which is the sort of informal quota that a journeyman bricklayer is supposed to install in a day laying to the line. For most commercial companies that is a minimum and if a guy is only laying that many in a day then he's the first to be let go, but...These are commercial jobs, there is sometimes a 3-2 bricklayer-labourer ratio, forklifts hydraulic scaffolding etc...Walls that are 500 sqft with only 2 openings, zero detail work, just throwing bricks to a line. I rarely, extremely rarely get to lay more than 20 bricks in a course and that's usually above a garage door for maybe 2 or 3 feet,
to just say how many bricks you install in a day without figuring out the added manpower and the design of the building is just plain silly