I am doing some reno work in my basement and have done a bit of framing in the past. I feel comfortable about doing it, but I have a question. Do I use double top plates or single? I've checked everywhere and can't seem to get a straight answer.
I worked on a house once that was built exactly that way. Walls were solid 2x4 stacked flat all the way up.Why not build the entire wall out of plates. The MEP guys will love you so much they'll invite your family to Christmas.
:001_huh:That's just weird. Were they trying to log cabin with 2x4's?I worked on a house once that was built exactly that way. Walls were solid 2x4 stacked flat all the way up.![]()
That's intentional. It's for structural reasons. If you ever look at a jacking pit or earth retention system it is H piles filled with lagging which is often 4x4.Grain elevators are also built this way.
That's how we do it here. It's code.How many of you have ever had to build more or less floating basement walls? They do more and more of that around here because of ground heave in the floors.
Same as here.Shoot, you guys would love the basement wall details here in Colorado. Bottom plate of redwood or PT is glued and Ramset to the floor, Walls are built with single top plate, single bottom plate 1.5" shorter than the height between the bottom most plate (the redwood or PT) and the bottom of the joists. The walls are then stood and nailed to the ceiling with a 1.5" gap between the bottom wall plate and the rdwd or PT plate. Then 60D nails are driven trough the bottom plate into the plate on the floor allowing the slab to heave 1.5" due to expansive soils.
My thought process has always been in the basement. :laughing:Same as here.
I'm honestly shocked how many guys are double plating basement walls in this thread. Literally no benefit. I have to assume it's because that's just how they normally frame a wall so the thought process continues into the basement.
See what happens when you double plate something that doesn't need double plated?Holy crap guys, 108 posts in this thread and Mako answered the question in the first post after the OP.
Andy.
So that's how forums should work? Shut down a thread once an answer is given?Holy crap guys, 108 posts in this thread and Mako answered the question in the first post after the OP.
Andy.
Oh my god, that is an absolutely brilliant idea. I am so glad that I had you here to show me where it is that I was going with this.So that's how forums should work? Shut down a thread once an answer is given?
I will just start reviewing all forum threads, finding the correct answer, deleting the rest, and closing the thread.Oh my god, that is an absolutely brilliant idea. I am so glad that I had you here to show me where it is that I was going with this.
I am sure that I would have eventually come to this conclusion on my own but you stepped in and filtered all the bull out for me in one really quick jiffy of time.
Say Cricket, do you think we could implement this new forum strategy at once?
We can dub it 'Andy's one shot forum answers' strategy brought to you courtesy of TNT Services.
Andy.
I didn't bring anything. Just pointed out how absurd it was to ridicule anyone who contributed to this thread after Mako. I guess from now on we should just wait for you to tell us which is the right answer and close the thread.Oh my god, that is an absolutely brilliant idea. I am so glad that I had you here to show me where it is that I was going with this.
I am sure that I would have eventually come to this conclusion on my own but you stepped in and filtered all the bull out for me in one really quick jiffy of time.
Say Cricket, do you think we could implement this new forum strategy at once?
We can dub it 'Andy's one shot forum answers' strategy brought to you courtesy of TNT Services.
Andy.
Good idea, lets experiment with this concept using you as the first volunteer.I didn't bring anything. Just pointed out how absurd it was to ridicule anyone who contributed to this thread after Mako. I guess from now on we should just wait for you to tell us which is the right answer and close the thread.
Yeah....grain elevators out near Red Deer were 2x8s flat-stacked 100' high. I don't see too many grain elevators like those anymore.I worked on a house once that was built exactly that way. Walls were solid 2x4 stacked flat all the way up.
Grain elevators are also built this way.
Too much work - just switch the winning post color and close the thread...I will just start reviewing all forum threads, finding the correct answer, deleting the rest, and closing the thread.
There it is. I don't know if he uses single or double, but I know what I do under different situations....but I have a question. Do I use double top plates or single?
typing with one hand tonight.....
Yeah....grain elevators out near Red Deer were 2x8s flat-stacked 100' high. I don't see too many grain elevators like those anymore.
I would rather you start, seeing it was your idea. In fact how about you just pm me your posts and I'll let you know if you are right.Good idea, lets experiment with this concept using you as the first volunteer.
Starting now you don't post anything until I tell you to, alright?
Andy.