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I am trying to win a commercial bid for flooring.

It appears my understanding of vinyl base installation pricing is not in line with what the client feels is fair, so I am asking for some feedback on low/high/average installation ONLY pricing per linear foot for vinyl wall base. Job is in Georgia. I'm from Ohio.

I quoted $1.00/LF client suggested $0.50/LF.

Any guidance on this would be much appreciated :)
 
I don't even roll my truck or even roll out of bed for 1.00 a foot on anything.. Unless it was a ton of clear, clean and perfect walls, it isn't worth the hassle.

How much clear footage are we talking about? A huge warehouse with smooth walls is a lot different than an 8x10 bathroom.
 
What's your production rate?

If for instance you can install 30' LF per man hour and your billing rate is $55 / hr, that equates to $1.83 for the labor only.
If you know your production rate and billing rate it's easy to calculate a unit price.

If you're supplying material, then that cost per LF is pretty easy to figure too. Don't forget to add sales tax and a markup.

Anyway .... $0.50 / LF is starvation wages.
 
I am trying to win a commercial bid for flooring.

It appears my understanding of vinyl base installation pricing is not in line with what the client feels is fair, so I am asking for some feedback on low/high/average installation ONLY pricing per linear foot for vinyl wall base. Job is in Georgia. I'm from Ohio.

I quoted $1.00/LF client suggested $0.50/LF.

Any guidance on this would be much appreciated :)
At the clients suggested 100% depreciation in your value, now just imagine you told him $2/foot, you'd be at your low $1/foot... that's not how this works... the only time YOU give up something in pricing, is because the CUSTOMER is giving something up... EVERYONE ELSE (i.e. - overhead, employees, taxes, suppliers, subs, etc.) still expect to be paid no matter how much you short yourself... so the only place that money is going to come from is directly out of yours and your families pocket if you don't have the Capital Reserves or Emergency Fund in place to absorb a loss to buy the business at such a cheap rate... and to put it in perspective... YOU'RE the one bringing everyone else the business, so why should YOU get screwed?...

You need to charge what YOU need to charge to be in business and find customers that can afford to pay that... re-read Fishingdude's post... gives a basic understanding on it, although forgets about Profit for your company... YOUR PAY, Mark-up and Profit are not the same thing... Your pay should be covered in either your Labor or Overhead costs, which make up your hourly rate, Mark-up is to cover variables in material costs and other miscellaneous expenses (i.e. - handling, acquisition, shorts, delivery, gas, subs, etc.), and PROFIT is what you pay your company to develop things like 3-6 months of Capital Reserves and Emergency Fund, Equipment Fund, etc...
 
An odd question when we can't visualize the size of the job. Who's doing the floor? How many square ft, and how many linear feet for the base? Admittedly, sometimes I "give away" something to land the job. Doing it on a house flip now. Swapping some hardware is the "freebee", if one were to line item everything.

If you're making good money overall, maybe cut the guy something of a break and close the deal with a smile. Win-win.

And on the other hand, if this is just a base install job, figure out your days plus all costs and profit, and that's the number.
 
How much can you run an hour? 100lf in an hour is $50 an hour that seems nuts. If he wants to save money do it T&M and just give an hourly wage. I would personally run away from this job as .50 a ft is not even worth getting out of bed.
 
I am trying to win a commercial bid for flooring.

It appears my understanding of vinyl base installation pricing is not in line with what the client feels is fair, so I am asking for some feedback on low/high/average installation ONLY pricing per linear foot for vinyl wall base. Job is in Georgia. I'm from Ohio.

I quoted $1.00/LF client suggested $0.50/LF.

Any guidance on this would be much appreciated :)
We haven't heard back from you and you're likely another one and done but at a minimum, as you can see, there's no "average price"... get out of that mindset and charge what YOU need to charge to be in business and focus on finding customers that can support it... those are your customers... the others who can't afford what you need to charge to be in business are anchors to your business and if you take on too many of them while trying to cross the lake of success, you'll eventually sink your boat... (y)
 
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