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USG is probably the most popular brand around here my whole life.

 
I have a PanelLift, banjo, drywall screw guns, porter cable power sander, rolling scaffold, hopper sprayer.

5000 was my biggest, don’t do a lot of that.

Im resisting buying a texture sprayer and bazooka, because then I’d be committed to doing drywall. 😳🤣
If you want to expand your drywall auto tool collection I’d recommend starting with corner finishing tools then mud boxes and last would be a bazooka.

1. Corner roller, angle head and two poles.
Maybe a mud tube with inside and outside corner and flat applicators.

2. mud boxes, box handle and pump.

3. bazooka and filler tube.
 
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I have a corned trowel if that’s what you’re talking about.

I used to fight with that thing a lot, 🤣 now I just mud one edge of the corners on first coat, and the other side when I’m on second coat.
 
I have a corned trowel if that’s what you’re talking about.

I used to fight with that thing a lot, 🤣 now I just mud one edge of the corners on first coat, and the other side when I’m on second coat.

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These two tools will reduce taping and coating a 8’ or 9’ wall-wall corner from however many minutes it now takes you to about 10 seconds and leave you with a perfect finish that won’t even need to be sanded. For ceiling-wall corners it will keep you off ladders too.
 
My understanding:

AP is the strongest, but most susceptible to shrinking. I personally haven’t had a ton issues with shrinkage, but I try to not apply it too thick either.

I’ll go through and patch any big holes the day before with 30 minute hot mud.

Lightweight is easier to sand, but a little softer than AP.

Topping dries the hardest, it’s the most difficult to sand, so it’s best for spray texture, as it makes for a durable finish.


Drywall gurus, is this correct?
Yes, you are correct. Large custom homes for years. Pro Form Black Top AP all the way. That’s all I use.
 
You've got the general gist but there's a bit more when you get into it. AP can pretty much handle everything if you just want one bucket to carry around but it's not the most efficient. "Topping" is a somewhat loose term as it can refer to mud for skimming, finish coats, or texture but there are several different formulations depending on the finish you're going for. The important thing to know with topping muds is that they don't have the glue in them that the others do so never use them to tape.

Other important things to remember, hot muds don't shrink but the whole "easy sand" label is a total lie. Its only "easier" to sand compared to plaster. Topper is the easiest to sand but lightweight APs are pretty easy to sand as well. Hot mud is the strongest but by far the toughest to finish with unless you're doing heavy hand textures that don't need to be sanded. Also, premixed muds and mesh tape aren't a strong combo IMO but I don't think mesh tape ever serves a purpose past rough patchwork. Paper beats plastic every time in my book.

I do a ton of reno work, lots of water damage repairs and patches. Typically 2-8 sheets per job and roll like this on most jobs. Hot mud to prefill, tape/cornerbeads and skim/float. Then lightweight to skim, finish and feather out edges a bit. This way I can get all my mud done the same day. Then come back when it's dry to sand and/or spray texture. I buy hot mud depending on the job size (small jobs all 20 minute, larger jobs 45-90 minute) then use lightweight TnT to finish.

For your size of jobs you could do just AP for everything as long as you're working a large enough area where you're not doing multiple passes the same day. Your wrist will thank you to switch to lightweight after you tape though. Same thing if you use topper for your final skim. Makes sanding a bit easier. Try some other stuff out on your next drywall job. You might be surprised.


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Dude, very informative. So easy - even an electrician could understand it. :LOL:
 
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