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Building a house and having a brick mason coming in to do the bottom trim wall around the house, slab foundation is already in. I thought it would be easiest to put the brick wall up after the initial framing . Once brick is finished install siding as it would be easier to cut, trim, place the siding instead of shoving in the top course of brick under the siding. But a mason told me that brick is laid after frame and siding is up. Is that how it's usually done?

Vertical hardieboard panel siding - finished brick look will be similar to this:
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I always get there before the mason, and install the proper flashing under the cource of siding or trim that we determine the brick or stone will stop at. Far eaiser to let the siding guy go first and let the mason follow. This also allows you to start siding on a full cource instead of a ripping to fit masonry.
 
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I did a job this summer where the mason wanted the flashing on first. When I went to side it had to pull the flashing back off because he put to much mortar in that it pushed the flash out . And grind down the excess mortar. Have done other job where the mason did a really nice job of doing brick/ stone after sided.
 
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The Dude said:
I always get there before the mason, and install the proper flashing under the cource of siding or trim that we determine the brick or stone will stop at. Far eaiser to let the siding guy go first and let the mason follow. This also allows you to start siding on a full cource instead of a ripping to fit masonry.
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That is where good planning and layout come into play. You as a sider lay it where you want the first coarse of siding to be.
 
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Randy Bush said:
That is where good planning and layout come into play. You as a sider lay it where you want the first coarse of siding to be.
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With proper planning, it can be done either way easily. A little effort by sider to mark top of masonry before mason comes in (i know, extra trip) and it avoids mortar buildup under flashing and smears on siding. Neater job, siding starts on full course, flashing lays flat without being jimmied around to get sill in.

On other hand, I've replaced many walls that needed to be built up under existing flashing/siding. No big deal to be neat if you care about such things. Planning brick layout properly should have it look like it was planned no matter what heights you have to work with. Decorative rowlock? Bump or grind down on bed joints a little? No biggie.
 
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Thank you for all the input! Sounds like either way will work. Since it seems siding installers prefer to do their part first and this mason has said he wants to go after, I'll go along with how he wants to do things. It's vertical siding so the spacing of siding courses doesn't matter as much.
 
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