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#2 ·
It's not a quick-connect. It's a push-in wire splice. The only reason you really need to cut them off and use wire nuts is if you need to splice more wires than they have ports on them for.



There's a strip gauge on the piece itself. Hard to see, but it'll be there.
 
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cedarboarder said:
some are good some are crap.
When I was an apprentice sparky I was told to never use them.


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When they first came out, they were all crappy. I had serious, time-consuming/money-costing issues with them. I didn't use them for years. But they've gotten better now.

I still prefer wire nuts even today, but I will use these on occasion.
 
#9 ·
I use the ones in the Halo cans and wafer LEDs but I don't buy loose ones to use as a wire nut. I was taught to use the screws on switches and outlets and still do. My mind tells me that a can light doesn't have internal parts that move or get wear due to use like switches and outlets.
 
#10 ·
B.Johnson said:
Do you have a point?
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Sure, right at the top of my little head.

Point is, just like backstabbing, those connectors rely on spring pressure to make the connection. Long term, springs lose force much sooner than a properly torqued threaded connection.

I prefer my work to last well beyond the taillight warranty.
 
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#13 ·
480sparky said:
I don't own Cooper, so I'm not responsible for their ignorance.
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But they do connect quickly. :whistling :laughing:

I agree with 480, when they first came out they universally sucked.

They're a little better now. I still don't use them, except for where they come already installed, like can lights.
 
#14 ·
Just replaced a light in the kitchen with them. If I hadn't seen this thread I would have been looking for the white nuts I must have lost.

I like them in this case. Put up light fixture, push wire in and turn it on.

This was a LED strip light. Not sure I would want them on a high wattage ceiling fan or fixture.

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Discussion starter · #15 · (Edited)
Up in the attic I see the newer Halo won't work. This is the old Capri that I pulled. Cheap guy (QL 75ICX).

I see where I could replace the socket and rewire but the fixture lost its bulb housing mount and falls through onto the light cover. Then there is the interrupt to replace...

Open hole nearest the left is just under 1" away (edited). While inner to inner span is 22 1/2" and I'm not going to block for this. Can barely reach as it is with connections on the far side and with knees extended through truss chords, hurdling a vent pipe, wiring, etc .

Also, specs that I have found on the Capri have been scant and nowhere has it listed as moisture rated. (where trusses take a change to a right angle)
 

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Had trouble following that post.

Are you saying the new Halo won't fit right next to the truss chord? (Most wont).

If so, use a remodel can. You can even wire it from below, so no more crawling into the attic. :thumbsup:
 
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Seven-Delta-FortyOne said:
Had trouble following that post.

Are you saying the new Halo won't fit right next to the truss chord? (Most wont).

If so, use a remodel can. You can even wire it from below, so no more crawling into the attic. :thumbsup:
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Yeah............ if the original install left a couple feet of extra NM for ya.......... :whistling
 
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Seven-Delta-FortyOne said:
Are you saying the new Halo won't fit right next to the truss chord? (Most wont).

If so, use a remodel can. You can even wire it from below, so no more crawling into the attic. :thumbsup:
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Did a Halo remodel can, clipped in easily from below. Was about $18 with the standard can around $10.

Did have to crawl the attic however to detach for some slack on the romex so it could be pulled down through.

Used the stock connectors.
 
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Once most people get to their late 20's and early 30's they are having trouble accepting anything new. Facts don't matter as much as "what they were told". The older someone is, they more they will say, " I heard it ain't as good, I do it the old way, new stuff isn't as good and it don't last, the old way works good enough, I won't waste my time learning something new." Seems to be human nature. Facts, studies, real world tests, will never make them reconsider, since Cloyd at the bait shop, and Billy Joe Jim Bob from the local bar, both said they don't them new fangled gadget's, it's them chinamen trying to take over.
 
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