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Thanks guys. I appreciate all the info. I'm just gonna rent a toe-kick saw from ABC rental. 30 bucks a day, charge them 60.
 
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neolitic said:
What's a bucket saw? :blink:
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It is a cheap jigsaw mounted upside down on a phenolic plate that fits on a 5 gallon bucket. Idea is the dust falls (mostly) in the bucket and it is portable so you set it right next to your work area. Good idea, poor execution imo.

I do the same thing with a 25gal plastic trash can and my Dewalt jigsaw....waste goes right in the can and gets NO dust on the floor, just as portable and I ain't gotta pay $200 for a $30 saw :whistling
 
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WarnerConstInc. said:
Not if they are willing to pay for it. Seriuosly, how much longer would it take to do what I said vs. dicking around trying to get that tile out from under the toe kick. What about where the fridge is or the dishwasher?


Take 4 hours to pull the counter and lowers in a modest sized kitchen?

How much time and effort will go into messing around trying to get the tile from under the kicks?
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Hmm, what if there's ceramic backsplash or wallpaper or even a flushmount top? Would you be taking that cab out and replacing everything to its original state to meet the customers satisfaction? If yes, now how much time and money is it? "Extra Add-on" $$

Ron
 
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mrwoodman said:
Hmm, what if there's ceramic backsplash or wallpaper or even a flushmount top? Would you be taking that cab out and replacing everything to its original state to meet the customers satisfaction? If yes, now how much time and money is it? "Extra Add-on" $$

Ron
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It will cost what it costs. I know there are some unknown variables but, I would definatley offer up some options.

I really refuse to go around cabinets and in front of Dishwashers.

Thats just how I roll. Usually you can sell them on a new top and maybe add a backsplash as well.
 
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WarnerConstInc. said:
It will cost what it costs. I know there are some unknown variables but, I would definatley offer up some options.

I really refuse to go around cabinets and in front of Dishwashers.

Thats just how I roll. Usually you can sell them on a new top and maybe add a backsplash as well.
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Well, to be honest, these HO's should be charged for taking the cabinets out. They decided to get a new kitchen and did everything besides the floor. Which I don't understand because, it was failing to begin with. Whoever did the kitchen did not sell them on a new floor.. I don't get it.
 
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bujaly said:
Well, to be honest, these HO's should be charged for taking the cabinets out. They decided to get a new kitchen and did everything besides the floor. Which I don't understand because, it was failing to begin with. Whoever did the kitchen did not sell them on a new floor.. I don't get it.
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My point exactley. Someone left money on the table. Sometimes all it takes is asking the right questions.

I will probably end up straight into a kitchen after I finshed a bathroom, all because of flooring in a hallway. You just have to strike up the right conversation and ask the right questions.
 
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just got done with similar job, 4 vanities in one bathroom. Tile went 3" under vanities. 10" tiles went to replace with 14"s had no problem. Started in the middle of the room w/a pneumatic tile chisel. Once I got to the tile in the cabinet, the hardy board and mastic popped, scooted the tile and board out at the same time. Also had the same thing on concrete floor, was even easier, mastic popped right up. Cut the new tile 1/2" under vanities.
 
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I have to agree with the MULTIMASTER comment, But if you don't have one the Harbor Freight Multitool is a very good copy of the Multimaster, You'll have to buy the diamond blade (DO NOT BUY THE GROUT BLADE)
The diamond blade is about 3" Dia. Use it to score the tiles right at the cabinet and when you pop them up (Cross your fingers) they should snap on your line. I did a restroom floor that had the tiles go under the cabinet but didn't want to mess with the old plumbing so I didn't remove the (Double Vanity Cabinet).
I actually just busted the tiles out and anything that was flush or sticking out I busted it with a cold chisel. Lots of work Bid accordingly.

If you have a small air hammer the wide blade will work well for you but wear eye and ear protction.
 
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On this post some are talking about new underlayment and then new tile.
Others are talking tile over tile.

With the trend today Granite Tops.

This plumber asks. Are future dishwasher replacements being considered, when you are raising floor height?

I mentioned Granite ... Formica tops could be unscrewed and pried up a bit. Not so with the new materials for tops.

Want to see a ticked off customer when they are told I can't get the D/W
out because your flooring man raised the floor.
 
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Plumber_Bill said:
On this post some are talking about new underlayment and then new tile.
Others are talking tile over tile.

With the trend today Granite Tops.

This plumber asks. Are future dishwasher replacements being considered, when you are raising floor height?

I mentioned Granite ... Formica tops could be unscrewed and pried up a bit. Not so with the new materials for tops.

Want to see a ticked off customer when they are told I can't get the D/W
out because your flooring man raised the floor.
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The OP said their kitchen was already redone so I don't think those would be issues. At the very least, the OP should mention this to the customers as a precaution.
 
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Bidding on a job that has this exact problem.

Newer home. Kitchen is in good shape. Granite top and backsplash.

Customer is dead set on leaving cabinets in place.

I plan to remove the toe kick, then tape the finished end panels and the peninsula.

I just bought a new Rigid tool, (multimaster knockoff) so we'll see how it works.

This customer is going with a 3/4 hardwood throughout.

I'm still undecided about what to do under the dishwasher. She wants to leave it alone, but I'm not sure that's going to work.
 
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HomerJ said:
Bidding on a job that has this exact problem.

Newer home. Kitchen is in good shape. Granite top and backsplash.

Customer is dead set on leaving cabinets in place.

I plan to remove the toe kick, then tape the finished end panels and the peninsula.

I just bought a new Rigid tool, (multimaster knockoff) so we'll see how it works.

This customer is going with a 3/4 hardwood throughout.

I'm still undecided about what to do under the dishwasher. She wants to leave it alone, but I'm not sure that's going to work.
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I would not even waste my time trying to use that tool to do that.

Buy the Crane toe kick saw, that's what it is for. We completed a job just like this about a month ago and while using the toe kick saw, the thoughts going through my mind the whole time, were "thank God we bought this tool, I can't even imagine trying to do this with our multi-master!)

You'll still need the multi master to get the inside corners.
 
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Mike Finley said:
I would not even waste my time trying to use that tool to do that.

Buy the Crane toe kick saw, that's what it is for. We completed a job just like this about a month ago and while using the toe kick saw, the thoughts going through my mind the whole time, were "thank God we bought this tool, I can't even imagine trying to do this with our multi-master!)

You'll still need the multi master to get the inside corners.
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I did a Flooring job last year and had the same problem, Mike is right on this one. Toe kick saw was a life saver- If you look at the damage to the Plywood - I had to remove that also.
 

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