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What you will learn doing piece framing and finish is invaluable to becoming a high production guy....



Now, temper this with pro highly quality work and you will become a highly paid guy....:thumbsup:


I worked for a commercial outfit as a youngster. I remember a carpenter telling the super he wasn't getting the job done at a faster pace because he didn't want to make a mistake.

He said something that's stuck with me. He said, "CHAMAC believes as a professional you should be able to do the job right and fast.

That guy didn't last long. However most carpenters didn't. I was a professional laborer at the time.
 
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Umm my question went from just that to crawling around on your hands and knees marking base?

comparing production grade base technique to high end finish is like comparing trump to Obama, no similarities.

Then again I don't do production work so those bad habits were never adopted.
 
I worked for a commercial outfit as a youngster. I remember a carpenter telling the super he wasn't getting the job done at a faster pace because he didn't want to make a mistake.

He said something that's stuck with me. He said, "CHAMAC believes as a professional you should be able to do the job right and fast.

That guy didn't last long. However most carpenters didn't. I was a professional laborer at the time.
been hanging out at the golf course too much Mike? In case you hadn't noticed most of the "professionals" are either retired or dead.

The subject matter of this thread should have tipped you off :laughing:
 
Umm my question went from just that to crawling around on your hands and knees marking base?

comparing production grade base technique to high end finish is like comparing trump to Obama, no similarities.

Then again I don't do production work so those bad habits were never adopted.
I'm 60 years old and something tells me I could work circles around you.

production, high end, or dog houses, doesn't make any difference.
 
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Very true, I couldn't imagine what one of my clients would think if they saw me with out a tape measure cutting up there mahogany crown that cost 20 bucks a foot without a tape. Then I would be stuck with taking production work.
 
Very true, I couldn't imagine what one of my clients would think if they saw me with out a tape measure cutting up there mahogany crown that cost 20 bucks a foot without a tape. Then I would be stuck with taking production work.
There's the giveaway right there. They are customers you're a carpenter (supposedly) not a lawyer

You're a Millennial using a "learning challenged" tape measure
 
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Can't teach a old dog new tricks.

"Boy I could lay 1000 miles of trim with my eyes closed and a broken pencil, until I run into a elliptical curve. Damn Millennials"

The last knuckle head I tried out building building cabinets and running the cnc wood carver tried to bring that slop into the environment. He went back on unemployment.
 
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I have them, they are great in some scenarios but placement of the laser has to be perfect.

I have two Bosch lasers, they both read from the back end while shooting forward. If your working with a surface that is textured, they are not very worthy because they maybe be reading a recess of the texture.

I love them for figuring sq ft quickly and volume. Also the one I have is blue tooth and links with chief architect and inputs the demensions of any room right into the program.

Its always nice waking into a bid and hearing a client say " the contractor in here yesterday was drawing the layout out on a plain piece of printer paper, and counting 12x12 floor tile" as I'm watching the room layout appear on my iPad.
 
I'm calling BS on all of it....all fluff and no stuff. I've already seen the "Daddy bought me a job" millennials too many times and could point out at least a dozen mistakes on any one of their jobs. I've earned the stripes and can do more with 3 tools than you can with 300
 
umm my question went from just that to crawling around on your hands and knees marking base?

Comparing production grade base technique to high end finish is like comparing trump to obama, no similarities.

Then again i [strike]don't[/strike] can't do production work so those bad habits were never adopted.
fify
 
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Daddy didn't buy me squat, work ethic came from being a crew chief in the USAF on f-22s for 10 years where precision and attention to detail is in the blood line.

daddy did give me 500 bucks when I came out of BMT so maybe he did contribute to buying a tool.
 
Daddy didn't buy me squat, work ethic came from being a crew chief in the USAF on f-22s for 10 years where precision and attention to detail is in the blood line.

daddy did give me 500 bucks when I came out of BMT so maybe he did contribute to buying a tool.
That aircraft was scrapped due to high cost....hmmm

And I don't believe anything you say
 
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All I'm saying is when I'm building, cabinetry, built in closet dressers, whatever, my eyes begin to strain detingishing 3/16, from 5/16 sometimes. Especially when I'm at it for 8 solid hours under the fluorescent light in my shop, my eye focus really gets loose when focusing that long and having blade markings helps me not loose my place.
 
All I'm saying is when I'm building, cabinetry, built in closet dressers, whatever, my eyes begin to strain detingishing 3/16, from 5/16 sometimes. Especially when I'm at it for 8 solid hours under the fluorescent light in my shop, my eye focus really gets loose when focusing that long and having blade markings helps me not loose my place.
Try Tajima...their premium line they have a couple lesser but the premium is white with black graduations unlike the standard yellow
 
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