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I got a question about Studs.

Ever since I began as a laborer ( about 20 yrs ago) 8 ft. Studs were 92 5/8. We ordered a house full of lumber from a newer box store. We ordered 8 and 10 ft. studs thinking they were precut. When the order arrived they were 8 ft and 10 ft long stud grade boards. Now being the level headed person I am I called the manager and informed them of the mistake. He informed me that they were studs and I was wrong. He then proceeded to inform me that the new industry standard for studs were full length boards and if I wanted short studs I should of specifically asked for short studs.

I guess my question is when you ask for 8 ft. studs do you expect 92 5/8 or full 8 ft?

I just wanted to know if I missed something or not. I was always taught that STUD mean't it was precut and shorter than nominal 8 ft.

Needless to say since the manager was so polite they recieved a $27,000.00 return and the small lumber yard that agreed with my measurement of a stud just got a Christmas bonus.
 
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huckaberry3 said:
I got a question about Studs.

Ever since I began as a laborer ( about 20 yrs ago) 8 ft. Studs were 92 5/8. We ordered a house full of lumber from a newer box store. We ordered 8 and 10 ft. studs thinking they were precut. When the order arrived they were 8 ft and 10 ft long stud grade boards. Now being the level headed person I am I called the manager and informed them of the mistake. He informed me that they were studs and I was wrong. He then proceeded to inform me that the new industry standard for studs were full length boards and if I wanted short studs I should of specifically asked for short studs.

I guess my question is when you ask for 8 ft. studs do you expect 92 5/8 or full 8 ft?

I just wanted to know if I missed something or not. I was always taught that STUD mean't it was precut and shorter than nominal 8 ft.

Needless to say since the manager was so polite they recieved a $27,000.00 return and the small lumber yard that agreed with my measurement of a stud just got a Christmas bonus.
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If I want 8', I order 8'.
If I want pre-cuts I order
"pre-cut 92&5/8".
Stud grade comes in many lengths,
usually up to 10'
I can get 8' pre-cuts as well,
but I would order.... p/c 96".


The salesman is right this time. :thumbsup:
 
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Can anyone tell me why when I lived in the east pre cut SPF studs were 92-5/8", I move west and per cut DF studs are 92-1/4"?

Just a question.

By the way, the box store was right, you asked for 8' studs, you got 8' studs, what's the problem? If I want 8's at 92-1/4" (or 92-5/8" in your case) I order pre cut 8's.
 
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A W Smith said:
agreed, both are studs. The yard cannot read your mind. if you want pre (precision retrimmed end) cuts you need to ask for them. And ive seen houses built with full eights. My sister in law had an eighties two family that was built with full eights (not retrimmed) by hacks which varied in height
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P.E.T. 92 5/8.
That's what they used to stamp them here.
Precision End Trimmed. :clap:
Thanks for the memory jog.
 
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Standard pre-cut wall studs are:
92 5/8" for 8' walls,
104 5/8" for 9' walls,
116 5/8" for 10' walls.
Top of plate heights 8' 1-1/8",
9' 1-1/8" and 10' 1-1/8".
Stud just means stud grade.
You are lucky if the lumber salesman
can read english,
let alone read your mind! :laughing:
How would he know what you are building?
 
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When I was building new construction, we used 104 5/8" for the main floor but would switch to full 96" studs on the second level for all of our spec homes. The client rarely could specify that we had a 3+" higher second floor but they always sensed something was different (IE better).

It was remarkable how many comments we would get about our "high ceilings" on the second floor. All this being said, we always made damn sure the sales rep knew whether we wanted 92 5/8 vs. full eights.

Make sure you have a good sales rep that knows (or asks) what you want!
 
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huckaberry3 said:
We ordered a house full of lumber from a newer box store.

Needless to say since the manager was so polite they recieved a $27,000.00 return and the small lumber yard that agreed with my measurement of a stud just got a Christmas bonus.
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What was the difference in price between box and yard?

I know it's apples and oranges ~ can you just humor me?
 
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AtlRemodeling said:
When I was building new construction, we used 104 5/8" for the main floor but would switch to full 96" studs on the second level for all of our spec homes. The client rarely could specify that we had a 3+" higher second floor but they always sensed something was different (IE better).
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What did you do about the dry wall. 3" stip in middle? Shim at bottom and 5" base? Dont seem worth it to me.

Like malco, when i want 92 5/8" i say 8' stud. Usually 5-600 at a time.
When i want full 8' i order 8' 2x4--2x6..etc. Its allways been that way. At the lumber yards anyway. At box stores i always get them myself.
 
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dlcj said:
What did you do about the dry wall. 3" stip in middle? Shim at bottom and 5" base? Dont seem worth it to me.

Like malco, when i want 92 5/8" i say 8' stud. Usually 5-600 at a time.
When i want full 8' i order 8' 2x4--2x6..etc. Its allways been that way. At the lumber yards anyway. At box stores i always get them myself.
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If you order 8' studs from any
lumber yard here, you
would get 96"+ stud grade.
 
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Chris Johnson said:
Can anyone tell me why when I lived in the east pre cut SPF studs were 92-5/8", I move west and per cut DF studs are 92-1/4"?

Just a question.

By the way, the box store was right, you asked for 8' studs, you got 8' studs, what's the problem? If I want 8's at 92-1/4" (or 92-5/8" in your case) I order pre cut 8's.
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There was a time, ( like the early eighties), when drywall to carpet was real popular. No base. It was short lived because people found that vacuum cleaners put holes in the walls. 92-1/8 was the standard with no base.

Box stores are not right. They don't know what a stud is, or a board foot , or a piece of quarter sawn.They also don't know some other things that have been the standards for centurys but they do know how to spell China.
 
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MALCO.New.York said:
Stud = 92 5/8"

2 x 4 = 96"

Is how I have always understood it.
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me too except studs are usually 104 5/8 on the main floor and 92 5/8 on the second floor.

I'll usually order 2x6x8/2x4x8.

or 8'stud/9'stud
 
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