im looking at purchasing a new enclosed trailer, 7x14 v-nose, this would be my first one, and am checking into brands and prices. i received a quote for a CARRY-ON brand that is significantly cheaper than a lot of other brands, the worst reviews i have found on it are extreme tire wear if there is weight on the sides, although this is enough of a bad review to sway me away (considering the review mentioned he used it every day and replaced tires every 4 months at 250$ for a set of 4 (tandem axle) which is the same amount of use i will be putting on it that adds up fast and defeats the purpose of the savings if other trailers don't have the wear and tear as often on the tires. granted the right size rim and better tire might be a factor that was not included in his review, but im curious if the difference in this issue can actually be the difference in the quality of the trailer. thanks for any and all responses
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I currently have a 92' Pace/American with the torsion axle. Was looking to buy a new one last year. Would have bought another Pace/Am but Pace is out of business.
I think the guy that started/left Pace went on to start Badger Trailers(maybe?).
One of the things I was looking for was that the shell ribs were 16"OC. Most cheaper models I saw had 24"OC ribs.
After I saw prices of new trailers with all the features I wanted, I rehabbed the old one. Replaced the fenders and undercoated the frame with chassis saver to prolong it's life. Should have done both along time ago.
Replaced tires as well. I can't remember last time I changed them. They wore well. I'm going by mileage on the trucks that this trailer has about 250,000 miles on it.:clap:
I think the guy that started/left Pace went on to start Badger Trailers(maybe?).
One of the things I was looking for was that the shell ribs were 16"OC. Most cheaper models I saw had 24"OC ribs.
After I saw prices of new trailers with all the features I wanted, I rehabbed the old one. Replaced the fenders and undercoated the frame with chassis saver to prolong it's life. Should have done both along time ago.
Replaced tires as well. I can't remember last time I changed them. They wore well. I'm going by mileage on the trucks that this trailer has about 250,000 miles on it.:clap:
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My first was a vnose carry-on and it was nice while it lasted. Got about 3 hard years out of it before door fell off, spring broke, side rotted, hitch busted, replaced all lights and some wiring, etc...
The replacement was a used Wells Cargo Road Force 16' which has about 6 years on it now with no significant problems. Led lights with no failures yet, hardly wears tires and still looks like the day I bought it. The Wells is made many times better in every way.
All I can tell you about are those 2 brands. If you want something that lasts stay away from Carry-on. After 3 years it was worthless and unusable. Its hard to spend the extra $ but dont skimp on this one.
Oh - the torsion axles are working out better for tire wear. I get years out of a set 2 hours a day. The leaf spring (carry-on) wasnt as bad as you suggested but it wasnt great either.
My first was a vnose carry-on and it was nice while it lasted. Got about 3 hard years out of it before door fell off, spring broke, side rotted, hitch busted, replaced all lights and some wiring, etc...
The replacement was a used Wells Cargo Road Force 16' which has about 6 years on it now with no significant problems. Led lights with no failures yet, hardly wears tires and still looks like the day I bought it. The Wells is made many times better in every way.
All I can tell you about are those 2 brands. If you want something that lasts stay away from Carry-on. After 3 years it was worthless and unusable. Its hard to spend the extra $ but dont skimp on this one.
Oh - the torsion axles are working out better for tire wear. I get years out of a set 2 hours a day. The leaf spring (carry-on) wasnt as bad as you suggested but it wasnt great either.
I looked at the ones below when I was looking. In the order of worst to best the carmate was the best but it was also the most exspensive by quite a bit. If they are available in your area go take a look at them.
Lark
Haulmark
Pace
Carmate
Lark
Haulmark
Pace
Carmate
Hallmark are absolute junk, when i started out I had one. Then I got a carmate that I liked a lot but out grew, and I'm currently in the market for a new one and I've found a local company that builds them. advatech flooring, 1/2 ply walls, the framing for the walls is square tube not c channel and it's 16 of not 24 like a lot of trailers are, 16" rims not 15 like a lot are. And at about half the price of all the big brands.
No one's mentioning price. I realize that price varies a lot from location to location, but what's it take to get a trailer? What's the range you guys are talking about?
They're very uncommon in San Francisco. Tough to park, different kinds of jobs, security would be a problem. But I'm curious about the range of prices.
They're very uncommon in San Francisco. Tough to park, different kinds of jobs, security would be a problem. But I'm curious about the range of prices.
Like cole says prices are hard to give. There was a lark next to mine that was 1/3rd the price of mine in the same size. I went for the most basic contractor edition carmate did as i wanted a walk on roof and it was about $6800+ tax but it come with some good options as standard but could have easy added another $2k+ to that price adding other options to it. But if you figure $7 for a good quality medium optioned trailer you should be in the ball park. The carmate our Familey business owns has prob done way over 300k miles and still going string and the drivers are hard on them too.CarpenterSFO said:
I have standard configuration, 6'x12' Wells Cargo as shown. Standard being 6 wide 6 tall. Torsion axles this pulls loaded with anout 3,000lbs gutter machine 70mph like a dream. $5,300 with the racks. I bought it from a reputable company known for quality and service, ie its probably available for less elsewhere but practicing what I preach!
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Saying one brand is junk because you had one that was junk doesn't mean much.
Same manufacturer has different models (good, better, best) with upgrades available on each of them. Buying the "best" one then adding the upgrades (heavier axle, better tires, better framing, will give you a completely different trailer than the base version of the "good" model.
I think all the companies have switched to torsion axles but there are different load ratings. The heavier load rating will have a larger hub and bearing meaning the parts aren't moving as fast. The heavier axles have heavier tires that will handle a load with less wear.
Spacing of the framing is another issue. One manufacturer will provide different spacing depending on what you will pay for.
Unfortunately this makes buying one difficult, kind of like buying a room addition.
Good Luck.
Recently I bought a 7X14 Haulmark, the best model, then upgraded the axles/tires even further. Take a look at the link page for the Haulmark Kodiak (best) trailer. You will see there are still numerous options to make this a better trailer. http://www.skyline-trailers.com/acatalog/Haulmark_Kodiak_KD7X14WT2.html
I didn't buy it from that dealer, ordered it through a local dealer for a similar price. I just told him what I wanted, including options, pointed him to that site and told him that was what I expected to pay.
You don't always get what you pay for, you always pay for what you get.
Same manufacturer has different models (good, better, best) with upgrades available on each of them. Buying the "best" one then adding the upgrades (heavier axle, better tires, better framing, will give you a completely different trailer than the base version of the "good" model.
I think all the companies have switched to torsion axles but there are different load ratings. The heavier load rating will have a larger hub and bearing meaning the parts aren't moving as fast. The heavier axles have heavier tires that will handle a load with less wear.
Spacing of the framing is another issue. One manufacturer will provide different spacing depending on what you will pay for.
Unfortunately this makes buying one difficult, kind of like buying a room addition.
Good Luck.
Recently I bought a 7X14 Haulmark, the best model, then upgraded the axles/tires even further. Take a look at the link page for the Haulmark Kodiak (best) trailer. You will see there are still numerous options to make this a better trailer. http://www.skyline-trailers.com/acatalog/Haulmark_Kodiak_KD7X14WT2.html
I didn't buy it from that dealer, ordered it through a local dealer for a similar price. I just told him what I wanted, including options, pointed him to that site and told him that was what I expected to pay.
You don't always get what you pay for, you always pay for what you get.
Looks like an older thread but I'll share my thoughts. I have an Agassiz and absolutely love it, they are made in Manitoba. They advertise that they are the best sealed trailer and I'd agree as I drive lots of gravel road and never have any dust inside. They might be a little pricier than some but they are built very well.
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I have 2 homesteaders and 1 United UXT in my opinion the homesteaders are throw away trailers (5-10 years before they rust beyond reasonable repair the United is made considerably better I haven't had it as long as the homesteaders but it's not showing wear and tare as fast however it costs 2 times as much and weights nearly double what the homesteaders weigh
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