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I am about to do some outdoor work for a family that includes a 16x13' cedar pergola to be built on a 4" thick, stamped concrete slab that is now 4 months old. The ground under the slab is well drained and was thoroughly compacted by another contractor before pouring.

I was told there was to be spread footings poured under the slab where the legs of the pergola was to be. I later found out that this was not done. It seems like my options are:

1) have 4 holes cored through the slab so I can put sonotubes through the slab and set the legs on those. It's not a spread footing, but at least if the structure settles, it hopefully would do so independant of the slab and not lead to cracks. The downside is this would be a bit unsightly, messy, and cost the owners and extra $500.

2) Drill saddles directly in to the slab. I was thinking about it, and the weight of the load of wood I picked up from the mill was around 2000lbs, some of which will be off cuts, some of it will be for a different project. But lets use the full 2000lbs for safety's sake. That would mean there is only 500lbs bearing on each leg. There owners may want to add a PVC type roof in the future, but the weight would be negligible, and we don't really get snow here so I don't think that extra weight would be an issue.

I obviously don't want to cut any corners and have their slab crack but don't want to waste someone's money on something that may not be necessary. What say you?
 
Drill your post saddles and move on. We install directly over 4" slabs everyday and have never had any problems. With that said don't skimp on your post saddles. If you are using a 6" post, get a 6" post bracket. We see other contractors cutting down the bottom of the posts to make an 8" post fit into a 6" bracket. This is lazy and un-professional to save a few $$$.
 
Like Mike said, most likely it will work in your case because you're dealing with a pergola which doesn't carry to much weight and you not dealing with a snow load,etc. the main concern in your case should be dealing with lateral and uplift loads.

On the General note, when dealing with slabs on grade and point load designs, they involve the interaction of a concrete slab and the soil support.
We all know that concrete develops minor cracks (call them micro cracks) in its properties even before the load is being applied and we all know that concrete strength in compression is much greater than its strength in tension, so pretty much you have to meet 2 important factors as point loading goes and that is subgrade strength (assuming compaction was done right and the soil condition is stable) and tensile strength of the concrete to prevent breaking under tension (assuming the slab wasn't watered down when it was poured and you will use right anchors to attach post supports to it).
One more thing to take into consideration is punching shear when dealing with point loads, but dealing with a pergola you should be fine with that.

Good luck
 
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