There is a siding adapter for the Bostitch RN46-1 roofing nailer. Does anyone know if the adapter will work on a RN46? Im not sure what the difference is, they look the exact same.
Roofing gun siding adapter?
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There is a siding adapter for the Bostitch RN46-1 roofing nailer. Does anyone know if the adapter will work on a RN46? Im not sure what the difference is, they look the exact same.
We have been very happy with our Bostitch roofing nailers. We use them on our CBU. We've tried a few other brands but they just couldn't handle the Durock like the Bostitch.
I am in no way an expert on siding but I always thought you were suppose to hand nail vinyl siding. That's what the carpenters do for the builders we work for.
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I just bought 2 bostitch nailers for $200 and 2 boxes of nails. In ABC catalog they have nailers for siding and they have the adapter for the bostitch. The only reason I know of to hand nail it is to keep the nails a little loose. I would assume that thats what this adapter does.
I'm still not convinced about gun nailing vinyl siding. The manufacturers haven't said NOT to gun nail, but they are specific aboutt heir nailing requirements. 1/16" gap according to Certainteed. 1/32" gap according to VSI.
If you want to gun nail, look into the millineum with the fabric nailing hem. You can tight nail this.
If you want to gun nail, look into the millineum with the fabric nailing hem. You can tight nail this.
We NEVER have and NEVER will gun nail siding, Foam backer yes, soffit yes, L bend Yes, but never siding. You have no control over depth. The guys that gun nail the vinyl, are the ones that only have one thing on their mind, and thats getting to the top of the wall as fast as possible with no regard for looks.
It appears to be just fine to do with the millennium, although I am not a big fan of certainteed siding.
It appears to be just fine to do with the millennium, although I am not a big fan of certainteed siding.
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is that adapter for nailing vinyl or crete/composite siding board? I always thought the adapter was to make the gun adaptable to the hardyboard type siding not for vinyl... kinda like the MAX siding nailer
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All the adapter really does, is provide you with a guide to make sure you are placing the nail in the nail slot. I have a 7/16" stapler set up for vinyl, and although I DO NOT use it, I would be more comfortable with a stapler than a nailer.
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I've done a lot of siding but i don't think I'll ever go to shooting it on. thanks for clearing that up patrick. and yeah so far as if I lost a hand and couldn't hand bang em I think I'd rather use a stapler than a roofing gun to affix siding. don't get me wrong though, if I start building sheds instead of working on homes I'll definitely be looking for an edge on those Amish boys down the road here....
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LOL, I have a feelin those amish boys are using staplers too!
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I seen a amish built shed and its a POS, the outside was mdf with exposed edges. When it rained the door would swell shut and everything was put together with nail guns or staple guns. It sure wasnt worth no 10k
Ive always hand nailed it myself then seen this adapter. I guess Ill just keep my $39, sounds like you guys really shot this idea down. Ive never used a gun on siding but have seen it done alot.
Pnuematic all the way
I air nail Hardiboard, and staple Vinyl Siding. I have a stapler specially made for vinyl and the nose has an adjustable notch to fit into the slot of the vinyl siding... Leaves the staple lose to whatever gap you want... Why waste time hand nailing when you can install 3 times faster with an airtool?
The gun also works great for vinyl soffit as well... I have several of them because I don't like wasting time readjusting the nose tip for the different depths... one for vinyl and one for aluminum soffit.
I air nail Hardiboard, and staple Vinyl Siding. I have a stapler specially made for vinyl and the nose has an adjustable notch to fit into the slot of the vinyl siding... Leaves the staple lose to whatever gap you want... Why waste time hand nailing when you can install 3 times faster with an airtool?
The gun also works great for vinyl soffit as well... I have several of them because I don't like wasting time readjusting the nose tip for the different depths... one for vinyl and one for aluminum soffit.
Not defending using gun to fasten siding, but supposedly,
the adapter facilitates the nail's consistant depth and positive placement.
I guess if it does what it claims, it should be ok
(other than when you set a nail into a soft spot where you can't tell that the nail has not caught right).
I was wondering how much faster a gun would be than a hammer.
I'd think (and someone with experience can correct me here)
with the figiting and the trying to set the nail in the slot,
a hammer would be if not neccessarily faster, at least close.
Can anybody enlighten me on this?
the adapter facilitates the nail's consistant depth and positive placement.
I guess if it does what it claims, it should be ok
(other than when you set a nail into a soft spot where you can't tell that the nail has not caught right).
I was wondering how much faster a gun would be than a hammer.
I'd think (and someone with experience can correct me here)
with the figiting and the trying to set the nail in the slot,
a hammer would be if not neccessarily faster, at least close.
Can anybody enlighten me on this?
Roj,
Posted before I read your response.
3X faster? Cool.
But do you have a feel for the nail or staple once set?
In roofing, while I can't feel the deck with the gun like I can with my hatchet, I can tell by how the nail is set that it may "not" have hit solid wood.
The main intention when applying the siding is to float the siding across the plane of the wall as straight as possible.Some walls have dips that need to be floated across,and using a gun,(even if it shot consistently)would tend to cause the siding to follow the curve of the wall.
Since,like any other trade,most of the time is in the prep work.the amount of time spent on actually nailing on the siding is about 25% of total job.
So.IMO not even worth dragging out the extra tools(gun compressor,hoses,extensions)
Sounds about right to me. I personally am not knocking using a nailer, but just wondering how one discerns depth when there's no hand feel.
2ndGen,
With the stapler you get a consistent depth stapling on studs or just sheathing. I can usually tell if the staple was sunk securely or not by the sound of it entering the wall. If I have any doubts I just put a few extra staples in for good measure... there are plenty of slots. The same goes for Hardie; I premark all my studs, but sometimes you just get that feeling like the nail never actually hit anything solid so I throw a few more on for good measure.
I know a lot of guys who skimp with their fasteners (and I can see why when hot-dipped galvy siding nails are up around $80-90/box) but I'd rather sleep better at night knowing my stuff won't come down!
ps. a box being 9000 nails. And prices are in CDN.
There are places that you can get a staple gun that you could not possible use a hammer.
We nailed for 15 years before swapping over to staples. It's not faster to nail. A worker with a staple gun will do more work in less time, and use about 1/3 the energy.
We nailed for 15 years before swapping over to staples. It's not faster to nail. A worker with a staple gun will do more work in less time, and use about 1/3 the energy.
So you're talking about new work. I can see this being a very feasible thing. And marking the studs...always a great move.
I argued the same thing regarding shingling with a gun over existing roofs. I argued that as with a hammer, there is a cetain "feel" when nailing (not as close as a hammer, but discernable none the less). Also, I can tell by the shingle itself, by the sinking of the nail. I can just tell by the sound also. I'm the same way if my nailing is "iffy"...when in doubt, sink another one just to be 100% sure.
Just like in regular roofing with a hammer, that sense has to be developed. It takes time.
I too only use the best fasteners (Bostitch for my Bostitch gun). They only cost $10. more per box (or $20. average per job). I save that in all the time I "don't" have to spend clearing jams that cheaper nails give me. It's not just the minutes one spends unjamming a gun, but the production lost (I could nail a bundle in the time it takes me to clear my gun). I go out of my way to buy Bostitch Coil Nails. They are simply the best in my area.
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