It's been a while but the last time i cut heavy dimensionals I used a hook knife and some big tin snips because it was cold. I heard they made a saw blade for them. Any suggestions. I have about 5 sq to put on a shed . Thanks. K2
K2
Shingle shear
I run a starter shingle up the rake, measure and cut them as I work up the roof. I use a Shingle shear that resembles the old paper cutters we used to use in school. Cost me $300 so I don't think I would run out and buy one for a shed roof, but it also has a tape on it so it's only a matter of slapping the shingle on it pull down on the handle and I have a nice square cut shingle that fits
I run a starter shingle up the rake, measure and cut them as I work up the roof. I use a Shingle shear that resembles the old paper cutters we used to use in school. Cost me $300 so I don't think I would run out and buy one for a shed roof, but it also has a tape on it so it's only a matter of slapping the shingle on it pull down on the handle and I have a nice square cut shingle that fits
Snips? Skillsaws? Air powered saws? C'mon guys.... you know your father's would laugh at you.
Why dont you just use a hook blade? All it takes is a little practice... I've cut 3 dimensional shingles in 10 degree weather all day and not lost one bit of skin on my knuckles.
You just score them first with your hookblade, cutting from the top... then after the nail line, if its in the tooth, you just cut the top layer first, then come back and follow the same line to cut the shingle in two.
Real easy.
Why dont you just use a hook blade? All it takes is a little practice... I've cut 3 dimensional shingles in 10 degree weather all day and not lost one bit of skin on my knuckles.
You just score them first with your hookblade, cutting from the top... then after the nail line, if its in the tooth, you just cut the top layer first, then come back and follow the same line to cut the shingle in two.
Real easy.
Btw, I also run a starter up the edges, gives me a kind of a guideline for cutting, even if the house isn't square.
The problem I see with you guys talking about just dropping the handle is this...
If it makes a perfect cut every time, what will you do if your house or whatever is totally out of square... say you are doing a reroof for some old lady and her husband who couldn't read built it back in '29 or something.
The problem I see with you guys talking about just dropping the handle is this...
If it makes a perfect cut every time, what will you do if your house or whatever is totally out of square... say you are doing a reroof for some old lady and her husband who couldn't read built it back in '29 or something.
In high school the shop teacher said to turn the shingles upside down and cut with a straight blade knife. Have yet to see a roofer do this in the "real world". What your shop teacher teaches you in high school and what goes on in the real work are two different things. Since the teacher knew I was in a family of reputable roofers he asked me what I thought. At the age of 17 told him this, "My family does roofing for a living, we don't use a square and a flat blade for laying shingles. Your idea looks great in this nice and warm shop were in but out there your way would be laughed at.
Never wasted a pair of tin snips on a shingle. Always thought snips were for metal and hooked blades for shingles.
Of the hundreds and hundreds of roofs I've done in the past 10 years all have had "bleeders" run up the rakes. When looking up from the ground it's the best finished look, IMO.
Never wasted a pair of tin snips on a shingle. Always thought snips were for metal and hooked blades for shingles.
Of the hundreds and hundreds of roofs I've done in the past 10 years all have had "bleeders" run up the rakes. When looking up from the ground it's the best finished look, IMO.
Your shop teacher was right. IMO
Hanging them over and cutting with a hook blade later is a waste of time and a waste of shingles. If you are shingling correctly in a stair step pattern, you should cut as you go to use the scraps. This can save you how much on shingles, clean up, and time. Think of the money you are throwing away.
Hanging them over and cutting with a hook blade later is a waste of time and a waste of shingles. If you are shingling correctly in a stair step pattern, you should cut as you go to use the scraps. This can save you how much on shingles, clean up, and time. Think of the money you are throwing away.
If it's real cold and you just gotta be out there doing it,there is another way of cutting these heavy shingles with very little effort,
I'm not sure they make them any more,so it may be hard to find,but well worth the effort if you do a lot of cold weather roofing.
It' an old asbestos siding cutter that looks like a big paper cutter.It's heavy and awkward,but if you want to cut all your starters ahead of time,set it on a roof plank nearby ,and with one push of the handle your done.
Look at tag or garage sales .I found mine at the local landfill, oiled it up ,and it works great.
I'm not sure they make them any more,so it may be hard to find,but well worth the effort if you do a lot of cold weather roofing.
It' an old asbestos siding cutter that looks like a big paper cutter.It's heavy and awkward,but if you want to cut all your starters ahead of time,set it on a roof plank nearby ,and with one push of the handle your done.
Look at tag or garage sales .I found mine at the local landfill, oiled it up ,and it works great.
I hear you dougger. If you cut as you go then there isn't much waste. As far as flipping them over and getting a good cut.....That is why you have your top shingler doing the slower things like edges, chimneys, etc....and your fast shingler doing the open areas. I know it seems like a waste of time, but it actually is faster in the end. Same as taking the time to lay out your bundles before you shingle rather than laying one bundle at a time and then getting up for the next bundle at the top of the roof.
I understand everyone has their own way though. I just feel that we have tried every way and have found the most efficient ways. Stair stepping, cutting as you go, doing our valleys with no cuts, starting in either direction...etc...
I understand everyone has their own way though. I just feel that we have tried every way and have found the most efficient ways. Stair stepping, cutting as you go, doing our valleys with no cuts, starting in either direction...etc...
I always pre-cut all of my edge shingles. I set up a jig(I have a jig for everything) by screwing a straight edge to the floor that I can slide my shingle under. I flip my shingle over (smooth side up) and use a straight blade. I cut all of my shingles before I even start installing them, that way, when I get to installation, it goes much faster, and the final product is a much nicer edge than if you used a hook knife. Not to mention your knuckles will thank you.
I run a soldier course shingle up the edge then as I go with the dimensionals I cut the edge with a pair of snipa along the edge with the soldier as a guide and reuse the scrap on the next fitting course. For me its fastand almost no waste like this. My edges always look clean and straight.
I agree with cutting as you g
n dimensional shingles there is virtually no waste.By stair stepping the shingles and using the cut offs as subsequent starters there is only a 18" leftover on the starting end of your run which I use for the next run as one of the starters.There is absolutely no waste on this end.
At the end of the run,I use full shingles,flip ,line up with soldier,place a small starter cut at the outside edge of the soldier and use the last course of applied shingle as a guide for a straight cut.If you keep your elbow stiff and draw the hook blade along the leading edge of the last course ,the cut will be even and the remaining piece will butt nicely against a higher course as needed by size.
This technique may take some practice,but not having a lot of scrap at the end of a job means less clean up and a more efficient job.
n dimensional shingles there is virtually no waste.By stair stepping the shingles and using the cut offs as subsequent starters there is only a 18" leftover on the starting end of your run which I use for the next run as one of the starters.There is absolutely no waste on this end.At the end of the run,I use full shingles,flip ,line up with soldier,place a small starter cut at the outside edge of the soldier and use the last course of applied shingle as a guide for a straight cut.If you keep your elbow stiff and draw the hook blade along the leading edge of the last course ,the cut will be even and the remaining piece will butt nicely against a higher course as needed by size.
This technique may take some practice,but not having a lot of scrap at the end of a job means less clean up and a more efficient job.
LOL Ok, not immigrants....mexicans
We do the same oldfrt.
With butterfly gables, sure you can get a good edge. It was already mentioned but we also run a starter shingle up the gable end. It makes a much better edge.
By the time you pull out a chalk line, get your electrical cord and saw, you already wasted how much time. I'm not saying my way is better for all, but it is better and faster for me.
We do the same oldfrt.
With butterfly gables, sure you can get a good edge. It was already mentioned but we also run a starter shingle up the gable end. It makes a much better edge.
By the time you pull out a chalk line, get your electrical cord and saw, you already wasted how much time. I'm not saying my way is better for all, but it is better and faster for me.
I've posted pictures of our valleys. They are not weaved.
What happened to doing your own work dougger?
Biggest crew we had was 6 guys and would do a house a day, but it was tough getting work done and watching to make sure evrything was done right. With 12 guys, I don't know how quality assurance can be had, unless they are all family.
What happened to doing your own work dougger?
Biggest crew we had was 6 guys and would do a house a day, but it was tough getting work done and watching to make sure evrything was done right. With 12 guys, I don't know how quality assurance can be had, unless they are all family.
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